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In reply to the discussion: Gun control? Americans increasingly see more guns as the solution, not the problem. [View all]beevul
(12,194 posts)26. Thats true of many things...
Guns enable people to easily escalate things.
Thats true of many things. And of those many things, its more true about some of them, than it is about guns.
See: Alcohol.
Take away the guns and there are no drive by shootings, no mass killings in theaters, schools, public meetings.
The guns aren't going to be taken away. You may as well have said 'if I found a lamp that contained a genie and was able to get three wishes'...
And even if 99% of guns are not misused, given that there are, by some estimates, over 100 million guns in the US. 1% of these guns equates to 1 million guns used in a crime equals 1 million violent incidents.
It isn't 1 percent though. Its less than a tenth of a percent.
And a related point is that there is no legitimate need for everyone in the country to have a gun.
This is where I get to say that my needs are defined by me, not by you. Worry about your own needs and keep your nose out of mine.
You don't get to define or decide whats 'legitimate' for me or anyone else in America, in fact, those things are none of your damn business.
100 million guns floating around is 100 million chances that any particular gun will be used in a violent crime.
And people like you say things like the above, without mentioning that in spite of your '100 million guns floating around is 100 million chances' rhetoric, that the chances never seem to materialize into anything that might resemble 'causation'.
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Gun control? Americans increasingly see more guns as the solution, not the problem. [View all]
beevul
Jul 2015
OP
Ah yes. Anti-gun dogma, originating from people that publish anti-gun dogma.
guillaumeb
Jul 2015
#14
Anecdotal evidence, or a few isolated incidents in a nation of over 300 million
guillaumeb
Jul 2015
#7
I'm bookmarking this post for the next round of articles about accidental shootings.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#9
If you asked my interlocutor to provide his stats from unedited sources you would see it.
Nuclear Unicorn
Jul 2015
#12
A USA-version of the Canadian Firearms Act would clearly be unconstitutional.
branford
Aug 2015
#109
I hold a different view as I don't wish to see our nation adopt gun control laws similar ...
spin
Aug 2015
#112
I believe you meant to say "Why *don't* we have far more gun violence........."
pablo_marmol
Aug 2015
#114
If by causation you mean the "why" that determines why any particular shooter decides
guillaumeb
Aug 2015
#36
why the reluctance to attribute any causality between drugs/gangs and gun violence?
the band leader
Jul 2015
#20
Why do some Americans feel such a strong desire to own so many gold coins?
the band leader
Jul 2015
#27
Huh? I don't care about the NRA, Bloomberg, Frank Luntz, or anyone else, on DU or elsewhere.
branford
Aug 2015
#62
I think that compromise has already been achieved, given that the Robert's SCOTUS decision
guillaumeb
Aug 2015
#65
"I think that compromise has already been achieved..." I don't. Again, what will you give up?
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
#66
Not supporting registration =/= "no limits or regulations on gun ownership and possession"
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
#91
Our interlocutor has not offered any argument that hasn't been seen here before
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
#92
"Compromise", here, means "we're willing to settle for a little now, without anything in return,...
friendly_iconoclast
Aug 2015
#73
"AFAICT, not one gun control advocate on DU who has called for 'compromise'.......
pablo_marmol
Aug 2015
#115
Do you define "shoddy studies" as those with results that challenge your beliefs? eom
guillaumeb
Aug 2015
#51
You actually trust unverified phone surveys on an increasingly sensitive topic?
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2015
#108
Consider learning what words actually mean before attempting to employ them.
Lizzie Poppet
Aug 2015
#134
Except gun deaths keep falling - tough for the grabber to spin the "more guns more death" lies
DonP
Aug 2015
#77
gun lovers are clueless or worse. its sad to hear arguments that only make sense in a
samsingh
Aug 2015
#93
Well, you know us gun owners, we're all just too dumb to recognize your "brilliant insights"
DonP
Aug 2015
#136
you must also believe that lion hunters are trying to help nature and not put a trophy on their fing
samsingh
Aug 2015
#88
at least i don't love guns more than life and then twist things to support my bloodlust.
samsingh
Aug 2015
#94
Do you really believe that the routine juvenile sexual innuendo and other related
branford
Aug 2015
#143