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Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
18. "Confirmed: Heat-seeking Missile Flies up Gun-controllers' Own Arse."
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:42 PM
Dec 2016

The politics of "mass shootings" probably led to this hat & cane attempt at blaming Obama for something. But what do you expect from the intellectual fire power of prohibitionists?

"Mass shootings" is a rather new definition. It holds that a mass shooting is one in which 4+ people are shot in one setting (not including the shooter). MSM has feverishly jumped on this new & improved category, neglecting the old FBI definition of Mass Murder, which holds that 4+ victims are KILLED in one setting (not including the shooter). That old definition is why Mother Jones concluded rather ruefully a few years back that the U.S. averaged slightly over two (2) mass murders/year since 1982. Yep, Two.

But with the All-New Mass Shooting definition, the "mass" becomes really Massive. And one can concoct a Yuge rise in MS incidents because -- viola! -- the only data one can compare to longitudinally is the old 2/year FBI standard of Mass Murder.

Mass Shooting (bigger number) ------------------------- Mass Murder (2/yr).

Apples -------------------------------------------------------------------------------Oranges.

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Washington Post article of Feb 26, 2016 "We have three different definitions of 'mass shootings,' and we probably need more" [It is Wapo, after all.]. Comment section:

"We need clarity. We don't need to believe that "mass shooting" means a certain number, then see a news story claiming that we have 3 "mass shootings" a day -- only to later find that the reporter has created a new definition that enables those stunningly high figures." JD Connelly.

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It should come as no surprise how the politics of stylized body counts involving the charged word "Mass" can be used against a president who speaks for some gun control; after all, the data can be force-fitted whenever, as WaPo says, "we need more."

They're not known for thinking ahead even one step...nt HAB911 Dec 2016 #1
Submitted for reference HAB911 Dec 2016 #2
Deserves, no, demands an OP of it's own. nt flamin lib Dec 2016 #4
Fake study. Kang Colby Dec 2016 #20
Not known for thinking at all. flamin lib Dec 2016 #10
I suggest that this is less of a... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #3
All throughout President Obama's term sarisataka Dec 2016 #5
Huh? 1965Comet Dec 2016 #6
I misunderstood your sarisataka Dec 2016 #7
No worries, we are on the same side here. 1965Comet Dec 2016 #8
your website isn't a valid source gejohnston Dec 2016 #9
My source 1965Comet Dec 2016 #11
the FBI excludes gang related gejohnston Dec 2016 #13
I don't understand why we need to differentiate... 1965Comet Dec 2016 #14
because gejohnston Dec 2016 #17
more 1965Comet Dec 2016 #25
It is my belief that rights are innate in humans. They cannot be "taken away". discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #27
Ok 1965Comet Dec 2016 #28
re: "...the right to self-defense has nothing to do specifically with hand guns..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #29
One could say the same thing about the gun in the hand of the criminal. 1965Comet Dec 2016 #34
re: "...we already do not allow certain weapon systems...the right is not absolute." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #38
just a few things gejohnston Dec 2016 #32
Further looking into things 1965Comet Dec 2016 #12
their definition includes gejohnston Dec 2016 #15
more 1965Comet Dec 2016 #16
even more gejohnston Dec 2016 #19
MORE more 1965Comet Dec 2016 #21
"... if we were to just ban handguns..." discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #23
That is all nice, 1965Comet Dec 2016 #24
Name anything... discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #26
I agree that pistols are excellent for self defense 1965Comet Dec 2016 #30
Point by point discntnt_irny_srcsm Dec 2016 #37
Since the #1 priority of the gun control lobby is outlawing the most popular *rifles*, benEzra Jan 2017 #43
no. gejohnston Dec 2016 #31
mass shooting tracker is an admitted propagandist pushing an ideology. 1965Comet Dec 2016 #33
he inflates the numbers gejohnston Dec 2016 #35
The definition 1965Comet Dec 2016 #36
"Confirmed: Heat-seeking Missile Flies up Gun-controllers' Own Arse." Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #18
Uh, this was a right-wing attempt to smear the President, 1965Comet Dec 2016 #22
Oh, I am aware of the RW posting; they don't miss many opportunities, Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #39
I haven't seen this... 1965Comet Dec 2016 #40
I don't really care whether anyone wants to use the new Mass Shooting measure... Eleanors38 Dec 2016 #41
" writing in Yahoo, Nov. 10, 1915." oneshooter Dec 2016 #42
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