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louis-t

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19. You people are delusional.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 07:08 PM
Mar 2017

I never indicated self-defense isn't a right. You are making that up. You are jumping to conclusions. You are putting words in my mouth. What I said was, when you allow someone to follow someone down the street and shoot them as they are running away because you think they might come back and shoot you when there was no indication they were armed, you are allowing them to get away with murder. Welcome to the Wild West. Just my opinion, just like your opinion is that I don't believe in self-defense. Oh wait, there's a difference. I actually showed cases where people were found not guilty or never even charged in really suspicious circumstances, because of the law. You just made a wild accusation based on "duh, gun grabbers think like this-".

Evidence doesn't always solve the case. In the Zimmerman case, the so-called eyewitnesses couldn't really see anything, could they? It was dark and they were too far away. They heard more than they saw and they couldn't really determine whose voice they were hearing.

We will never know all of the details of the killing of Trayvon Martin. However, we do know that Zimmerman was hunting, stalking him. He was told by the police to back off. The kid was on the phone with his friend and she said he was trying to shoo the guy off. Zimmerman was the aggressor. The kid had a right to defend himself, right? Gun "enthusiasts" seem to forget that part. I guess only the armed are allowed to defend themselves.

States that don't have stand your ground louis-t Mar 2017 #1
"Just another excuse to murder people." Who has been murdered, and when? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #2
Pretty hard to determine when one of the victims/perps louis-t Mar 2017 #3
Well then, do you have at least one example of a shooting you found questionable? friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #4
Zimmerman considered it but his attorneys talked him out of it. louis-t Mar 2017 #5
no there isn't gejohnston Mar 2017 #13
It is not an honest question. louis-t Mar 2017 #16
self defense is not a crime gejohnston Mar 2017 #18
You people are delusional. louis-t Mar 2017 #19
not at all gejohnston Mar 2017 #20
There's a lot of material on this. louis-t Mar 2017 #6
SYG simply means no duty to retreat gejohnston Mar 2017 #12
And by the way, a lot of these cases never go to trial. louis-t Mar 2017 #7
"(Y)ou just have to look for it." No, I don't- as it was *your* claim to prove, not mine. friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #8
Uh, "they're going to stop in 5 feet and jump out with a gun" louis-t Mar 2017 #9
No, that was held to be self-defense, which applied *before* SYG in Louisiana friendly_iconoclast Mar 2017 #11
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #10
Stand your ground wasn't intended to reduce violent crime. pablo_marmol Mar 2017 #14
key syg findings wrt firearms jimmy the one Mar 2017 #15
Let's distinguish between "increases in homicide by firearm" louis-t Mar 2017 #17
Homicide doesn't necessarily indicate crime. There are many homicides that are not criminal. Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #21
Homicide: discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2017 #22
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