Gun Control & RKBA

DonP

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85. He doesn't want to change them, he just wants to be the only one allowed to grade them

Tue Jan 3, 2012, 06:55 PM

Jan 2012

In "Bizzaro world" everything is backwards and the more political candidates complain and support random gun laws and registration the more the NRA should support them.

That's why NARAL will be supporting Santorum tonight and the ACLU is going to ask Dick Cheney to sit on their board of directors.

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December NRA "Freedom" magazine proves the NRA is a right wing bunch of nuts [View all] Logical Jan 2012 OP

They aren't doing anything that isn't mirrored (or initiated) by their opponents. PavePusher Jan 2012 #1

LOL.....but you HATE their opponents. But not the NRA! Why?? Logical Jan 2012 #2

Actually, I do hate those tactics when they use them... And I'm an NRA member. PavePusher Jan 2012 #5

That's such a phony argument. ellisonz Jan 2012 #3

I haven't seen the Brady's run any safety training classes... ever. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #6

That's not their mission. ellisonz Jan 2012 #7

So, why don't you explain their mission burf Jan 2012 #8

Don't hold your breath DonP Jan 2012 #9

Why don't you explain why the NRA... ellisonz Jan 2012 #14

Be happy to........ burf Jan 2012 #16

lol ellisonz Jan 2012 #18

LOL wut? beevul Jan 2012 #46

lol YOU ellisonz Jan 2012 #47

The questionnaire determines a candidate's grade (along with previous votes / actions / statements.) X_Digger Jan 2012 #49

No one objective who reads that questionnaire doesn't already know... ellisonz Jan 2012 #50

Do you understand the concept of grades? X_Digger Jan 2012 #57

Do you understand the concepts of grades? ellisonz Jan 2012 #63

No, you're being intentionally obtuse. X_Digger Jan 2012 #67

I don't like what they stand for... ellisonz Jan 2012 #69

Are you seriously not getting this?!? X_Digger Jan 2012 #79

"Are you seriously not getting this?!?" ellisonz Jan 2012 #82

9 different grades is not binary. Are you seriously this dense? X_Digger Jan 2012 #84

So there's a clear cut off... ellisonz Jan 2012 #87

Of course. What, you expect everyone to be endorsed regardless of grade?!? n/t X_Digger Jan 2012 #89

Oh please. beevul Jan 2012 #51

So then, how would you change the questions to fit your idea of a oneshooter Jan 2012 #83

He doesn't want to change them, he just wants to be the only one allowed to grade them DonP Jan 2012 #85

I wouldn't have a questionnaire. ellisonz Jan 2012 #88

People make a binary choice- either they send money and join the NRA, or they don't. X_Digger Jan 2012 #90

Out of 80 million gun owners... ellisonz Jan 2012 #91

And which group do they support? X_Digger Jan 2012 #92

Not the NRA... ellisonz Jan 2012 #93

*snort* nice weasel. X_Digger Jan 2012 #94

Do you have any evidence they do? n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #95

They don't join the brady bunch, lol.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #96

They also want enforcement of the current laws... ellisonz Jan 2012 #97

Well said Bevull rl6214 Jan 2012 #48

Really? We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #60

Ironic isn't it? DonP Jan 2012 #64

"an organization which is explicitly opposed to gun control" ellisonz Jan 2012 #66

Why? We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #68

Haha...you can't because they don't. ellisonz Jan 2012 #70

Look for yourself - the NRA website is open to the public DonP Jan 2012 #71

Oh I did... ellisonz Jan 2012 #72

First off... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #73

In other words... ellisonz Jan 2012 #74

I'm not the one who made the We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #75

It's political arm sure as heck does from endorsement... ellisonz Jan 2012 #76

It appears you didn't look very hard burf Jan 2012 #77

The NRA is like an octopus. ellisonz Jan 2012 #78

That wouldn't be like the Brady Campaign burf Jan 2012 #81

From their own web site. PavePusher Jan 2012 #10

Doesn't say they themselves offer such classes. ellisonz Jan 2012 #13

But I thought they were about gun safety. burf Jan 2012 #17

Deliberate distortion of the meaning of those words. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #19

How am I distorting the words? burf Jan 2012 #22

Brady is not about offering such courses. A statement of principle is not a statement of purpose. nt ellisonz Jan 2012 #23

If one claims a principle, then does nothing to promote that principle.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #24

How are they subverting gun safety? ellisonz Jan 2012 #27

They have been known to oppose gun safety training in schools. n/t PavePusher Jan 2012 #35

You mean in public schools? ellisonz Jan 2012 #42

But drivers training is? beevul Jan 2012 #52

Wasn't at my school... ellisonz Jan 2012 #53

Was at mine. beevul Jan 2012 #54

You must have gone to a nicer public school... ellisonz Jan 2012 #55

Ok, so what do they do to promote these "highest standards of safety"? burf Jan 2012 #15

Nothing. They didn't support President Obama's proposals back in March: friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #59

Didn't the legislation passed four years ago require the states burf Jan 2012 #62

Good points, but I believe opening the NICS would be good for starters. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #80

I wanna make sure I got your proposal straight. burf Jan 2012 #98

Yes. If a seller checks a potential buyer out via NICS, and they pass... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #99

Thanks n/t burf Jan 2012 #100

If the Brady Campaign ever offers a firearm safety course... spin Jan 2012 #32

Al Gore's Pink Slip E6-B Jan 2012 #21

That was Al Gore's warrent to end his career. E6-B Jan 2012 #101

The NRA is... ellisonz Jan 2012 #4

You mean the Talibornagain? krispos42 Jan 2012 #25

Yessir. ellisonz Jan 2012 #26

God, Guns, and Gold krispos42 Jan 2012 #28

I oughta go ahead and join. BiggJawn Jan 2012 #11

Not a bad idea. They would try to sue you I am sure. Logical Jan 2012 #30

On what grounds? BiggJawn Jan 2012 #33

Because you were annoying them. They whine a lot. Logical Jan 2012 #34

You're right that the NRA is dominated by rightwingers, but they are usually correct about gun laws aikoaiko Jan 2012 #12

Anyone who joins and supports the NRA is helping the defeat of Obama. So yes. Logical Jan 2012 #31

I don't think that's true. It complicated, though. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #37

And 6 million dollars spent against him is making him more unelectable. Wow, nice try. Logical Jan 2012 #38

If he responds well, then yes, possibly. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #45

I think your post is realistic and honest but not pro-NRA. spin Jan 2012 #36

Gun owners are not buying what your selling E6-B Jan 2012 #20

Really, you believe Obama is waiting to win the election to overthrow the 2nd? Really???? Logical Jan 2012 #29

If he did try in his 2nd term he would give the next Presidential election to the Republicans... spin Jan 2012 #39

I honestly do not think he gives a shot about gun control. It is not just that he is hiding it..... Logical Jan 2012 #40

The NRA is just trying to raise money... spin Jan 2012 #41

To fight against the presidential nominee of the Democratic Party. n/t ellisonz Jan 2012 #43

True. I am an NRA member but... spin Jan 2012 #65

We agree there. Logical Jan 2012 #44

You'll never hear any decent on safeinOhio Jan 2012 #56

And you'll never see any dissent on the Brady Camapign website, either... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #58

You're not going to see.... We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #61

All I care about is the NRA supports my RKBA Upton Jan 2012 #86