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Response to DanTex (Reply #86)

Fri Aug 24, 2012, 10:03 AM

87. actually there isn't

If you are one of those "both sides do it" centrists, maybe you don't really belong on DU after all. I happen to believe that there is a big difference between, for example, the people who publish global warming research in science journals, and the right-wingers who write for the National Review about how it's all a hoax. Along those lines, there's also a big difference between people who publish gun violence research in science journals, and right-wingers who blog about how it's all a hoax.

Actually that is a false equivalence. You ignore the peer reviewed research published in criminology publications, but then they don't send out press releases.

I would love to have a debate with an intelligent and progressive pro-gunner, if there is such a thing, but presumably this hypothetical pro-gun progressive would be able to make his or her case without resorting to links to FOXNews or WashingtonTimes or WorldNetDaily.
Does that include anti gunners who link to right wing Brit sources like the Daily Mail? Actually, there are couple of progressive pro gunners that have intelligent debates, and are a lot smarter than you. There is little intelligent debate coming from your side. Hoyt and bongbong are the norm. At least you attempt it once in awhile. The problem is trying to act superior and pretending to be expert at stuff you actually have no clue about (investigative reporting and how they get access to documents for example) does not help your cause.
Political bias exists equally. Any anti gun screed, no matter how poorly written or absurd, is going to make Think Progress as fact. Last year's "Al Qaida says you can buy machine guns at gun shows so it must be true" was a perfect example. Some magazine writer writes an article that shows all the signs of whistleblower retaliation, yet some progressives actually takes it seriously because it happens to be the ATF.

This is supposed to be a message board for Democrats and liberals, where we don't have to pretend that maybe the idiots who talk about "legitimate rape", or want to teach creationism in schools have a valid point. I don't see why we should tolerate right-wing gun propaganda either.
That doesn't have a fucking thing to do with anything. I will say that some of that crap comes from Rhodes Scholars like Bobby Jindal and David Vitter.

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