Gun Control & RKBA

benEzra

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51. It's already expensive enough to serve as a de fact means test. How wealthy do you want me to be?

Sun Jan 8, 2012, 01:08 PM

Jan 2012

I think mine cost me around $140 all told, plus $100-$200 in lost work time, and that's only because I was able to find the class at a very reasonable price. I had to delay getting it for a few months because I couldn't afford it, which I guess is all fine and good with you.

FWIW, the problem isn't funding; it's that some officials weren't bother to obey the reporting laws, apparently.

I can vouch for the fact that the NC permitting process itself is quite intrusive and is expensive in terms of time, effort, and commitment.

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Half Of North Carolina Concealed Carry Permit Holders With Felony Convictions Keep Their Permit [View all] Galraedia Dec 2011 OP

and in all cases gejohnston Dec 2011 #1

"Moot" my rear. Just shows how ineffective permit process is. Couple that with gun mania . . . . . Hoyt Dec 2011 #2

the ineffective part gejohnston Dec 2011 #3

Time to increase the fee to pay for better administration. ellisonz Dec 2011 #11

It's already expensive enough to serve as a de fact means test. How wealthy do you want me to be? benEzra Jan 2012 #51

"Couple that with gun mania . . . . ." rl6214 Dec 2011 #16

Also in the article... Glassunion Dec 2011 #4

Ah, yes. A "glaring clerical error" Doctor_J Dec 2011 #5

Are you suggesting a conspiracy... Straw Man Dec 2011 #7

Then the users of this law can pay higher fees... ellisonz Dec 2011 #12

Which law? Straw Man Dec 2011 #14

Both. ellisonz Dec 2011 #15

he was talking about economic issues gejohnston Dec 2011 #20

Who are "we"? Straw Man Dec 2011 #23

Democrats. ellisonz Dec 2011 #24

You mean "the remaining Democrats." Straw Man Dec 2011 #38

If you want to take it that way... ellisonz Dec 2011 #39

Yeah, I do. Straw Man Dec 2011 #40

Then that's your right... ellisonz Dec 2011 #41

Yes, it is. Straw Man Dec 2011 #42

Ok. ellisonz Dec 2011 #43

Yeah, OK. Straw Man Dec 2011 #44

You are the one that feels you need the safety of more gun control rl6214 Dec 2011 #18

Your argument applied to traditional civil rights issues ellisonz Dec 2011 #25

You have described expansion (or, arguably restoration) of Civil Rights. PavePusher Dec 2011 #26

I actually would describe it as promotion of Constitutional practice. ellisonz Dec 2011 #33

That battle has been fought and your side lost. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #55

Thanks to Antonin Scalia! - Gun Rights Hero Extraordinaire! ellisonz Jan 2012 #58

I think you missed the "unanimous" part. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #59

Nonsense. ellisonz Jan 2012 #62

"purely civilian purposes" Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #63

We take it sarcasm is your literary-white-flag of defeat, then? OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2012 #60

I don't wave the white flag... ellisonz Jan 2012 #61

Strangely appropriate Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #64

Two words: Poll Tax Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #54

Oh, nice try. The comparative results of the elections in 2008 and 2010 should have Doctor_J Dec 2011 #30

+1000 ellisonz Dec 2011 #34

See the "comparative" data in #29 below. SteveW Dec 2011 #35

Let me see if I have this straight Doctor_J Jan 2012 #45

There's a rather large straw man buried in the middle of that. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #49

Your verbal jests... fall harshly upon the ears of Sire Lecornu, ... SteveW Jan 2012 #50

I might be Straw Man, but I'm not THAT straw man. Straw Man Dec 2011 #37

Ask Bill Clinton. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #56

Ah, another conspiracy theorist. rl6214 Dec 2011 #17

You realize that even WITH the permit, they are committing a felony just by holding a gun in their AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #46

Umm, NC is run by *DEMOCRATS*, not right-wingers, and we went for Obama in '08. benEzra Jan 2012 #52

I'm afraid your corrections will be unheard by the factose intolerant. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #53

"Under federal law, felons lose the right to own guns" That says it all Taitertots Dec 2011 #6

Apparently not Doctor_J Dec 2011 #28

The absence of base rates and comparisons in this article is suspicious. aikoaiko Dec 2011 #8

Nothing new here. russ1943 Dec 2011 #9

There's no evidence of prior convictions at the link you gave. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #10

The NRA protects our rights. ellisonz Dec 2011 #13

You forgot step 4) Doctor_J Dec 2011 #31

What casualties? AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #47

Should felons lose CCW permits? mvccd1000 Dec 2011 #19

in some countries gejohnston Dec 2011 #21

+1 Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2012 #57

Lets see what George W. Bush has to say on this subject: Galraedia Dec 2011 #22

What do you propose? n/t PavePusher Dec 2011 #27

Perspective one-eyed fat man Dec 2011 #29

Thank you for refuting hysteria with mathematics. friendly_iconoclast Dec 2011 #36

This is a dumb article. Think of what a permit does. DissedByBush Dec 2011 #32

Do you have any idea how much of a non-issue this is? AtheistCrusader Jan 2012 #48