Is RKBA an Individual Right?

[Atypical Liberal]

40. Hard to follow what you are saying, but I will address some of your points.

What are gunnies stockpiling guns for, and what are they going to later use them for?

that is the question.

I own perhaps 12 or so firearms. I own three shotguns, one 20 gauge, one 12 gauge, and one 12 gauge that was my grandfather's. These are for hunting different kinds of birds. The 20 gauge is better for smaller birds, the 12 gauge for larger ones. They also make good self-defense weapons.

I own one .45ACP semi-automatic handgun for self-defense and target shooting.

I own a .32 Smith&Wesson that belonged to my great-uncle. It is hard to find ammo for anymore and is mostly just an heirloom.

I own two .22 semi-automatic handguns for target shooting. One was my great-uncle's and only shoots standard-velocity ammo so I don't shoot it much. It is mostly just an heirloom.

I own 2 black powder revolvers for target shooting.

I own a high-powered, bolt-action rifle for hunting.

I own a civilian AK-47 for self-defense in the event of civil breakdown, such as in the aftermath of a natural disaster or terrorist attack.

I own two .22 semi-automatic rifles, one with a scope and one without, for hunting small game and for target shooting.

I own two black powder musket rifles for target shooting.

I own a Smith & Wesson .44 magnum for target shooting.

I "stockpile" guns for the same reason that people "stockpile" stamps, or coins, or whatever it is people like to collect. It's fun. Shooting is an enjoyable, competitive sport. Hunting allows me to provide for my family in an emergency and defray the cost of groceries. Being able to have the choice to defend myself from bad people without resorting to a fistfight is also good.

(we need guns they chant to stop someone from breaking in a theatre, a restaurant, any place in the world

The sad truth is, most of the time when there is a violent crime that gets stopped, especially when it is a shooting, it is stopped when people with guns show up. Sometimes these bad things happen in theaters, restaurants, and other places in the world.

So the easiest thing to stop people from getting in somewhere with a gun would be more security setups so anyone with a gun would be spotted, and gun wouldn't be allowed in.
NO GUN at all would stop someone shooting a place up.

Yes, it is true, if we could wave a magic wand and make all guns disappear, then all shootings would stop. And if every single place we went in the world had armed security guards and metal detectors, then we could visit such places with the relatively sure assurance that no one around us was armed and if they were, or they just tried physical violence, there would be someone nearby who could save us.

We don't live in such a world, and frankly, I'm not sure I want to. I'm not sure I foresee all the consequences to living in such a monitored, protected world. We are already awash in surveillance more than I am comfortable with.

the flaw in it is- the gunnies all have guns they say are legal and how can you stop any gun if the legal ones are allowed in.

like d'uh


There is no reason to stop the legal ones from being allowed in in the first place. People with CCW permits are hardly ever involved in crime. It's the people carrying illegally that you have to worry about, and those people aren't going to obey the law anyway. So unless you have metal detectors and armed security everywhere, what can you do?

but the NRA stockpiles money and blackmails any politician running for reelection if they make so much of a peep.

Only politicians who do not support the second amendment. In the last election, all of my Democratic candidates except one had high marks from the NRA except one, and three of them were the endorsed candidate.

then they have to plead da constitution da constitution and like Mitt and Karl Rove, twist the situation

The Constitution is the bedrock upon which the country was founded. It enumerates many important ideals that encapsulate what it means to be free in America. It does have the ability to be amended, and if the people wanted it, they would get it. They don't.

Without a gun, Lincoln, JFK, RFK, JohnLennon Allard Lowenstein and zillions others would still be alive.

Without guns, you would not have a country.

Without guns, every single victim of violent crime would be left up to their own physical strengths or weaknesses to survive. They can run, submit, or fight, if they are fast enough, tough enough, or skilled enough.