Gun Control & RKBA

Starboard Tack

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51. Where am I blaming the victim?

Sun Jan 15, 2012, 12:23 PM

Jan 2012

I said know why it happened. That means what it means and not what you insinuate. I'm talking about victims in abusive relationships. I'm talking about victims engaged in high risk occupations like police officers, prostitutes, armored truck drivers, pimps, drug dealers. But you knew that. Your constant personal attacks are disgusting.

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Really great piece on the Glock handgun, and gun control on NPR! [View all] virginia mountainman Jan 2012 OP

I read the transcript, this is the best part: MicaelS Jan 2012 #1

Yes, many are "very, very attached to them." LOL Hoyt Jan 2012 #4

Your a perfect fit for his quote.. E6-B Jan 2012 #7

Harm -- you have to look at both direct and indirect effects. But you won't. Hoyt Jan 2012 #9

Indirect effects? We_Have_A_Problem Jan 2012 #11

Feel free to explain/demonstrate the "harm". PavePusher Jan 2012 #12

Please educate me on the direct and indirect harm people like me cause. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #13

And yet............ Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #14

"most of those gun owners are law-abiding citizens" Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #15

How many is most? Glad you asked.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #16

The percentages look great, don't they? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #22

Non sequitur (it does not follow). X_Digger Jan 2012 #27

"What does the percentage of guns used in crime have to do with carrying (or not)?" Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #28

No, you asked about 'most'.. when shown how rarely most guns or gun owners are used in crime.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #33

Yes, they DO look great! Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #29

How many people are killed by spare tires and smoke detectors. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #31

No, your question is lame, because those things have little or nothing to do with crimes. PavePusher Jan 2012 #34

"Ad nauseum" is right. Totally false analogy. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #35

How so? PavePusher Jan 2012 #39

Now you've moved the goalposts. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #37

No, you moved the goalposts. I stayed on topic. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #38

No-one carries extinguishers because you don't need to. They are in every public-access.... PavePusher Jan 2012 #40

Doesn't surprise me. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #41

Living unprepared is your choice to make. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #43

None of those safety tools and devices are lethal weapons. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #45

Buy me a lottery ticket, will ya? Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #47

I care from a public safety standpoint and a rights standpoint. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #52

Wow, we agree! Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #55

Good. We're getting somewhere. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #56

It IS statistically insignificant. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #57

"They are hyper-law-abiding people, and that's all that matters." Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #58

shooting over property. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #59

If I ever need to find a 'blame the victim' post, I know where to turn.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #50

Where am I blaming the victim? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #51

It's their 'karma' catching up with them (according to you).. X_Digger Jan 2012 #53

*taps foot*.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #60

No, YOU moved the goalposts by changing the subject from probability to what criminals do with guns. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #46

Exactly. The few on this board may be wonderful carriers, it's all the others that are an issue. Hoyt Jan 2012 #18

Yes. The majority are and we say goodbye to them on a regular basis. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #21

IOW, "People shouldn't carry, in order to avoid a backlash against carrying." friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #25

Think what you like Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #26

Regardless of political affiliation, they are hardly ever involved in crime. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #30

Not true. People are much less likely to get shot by someone who doesn't walk around with a gun. Hoyt Jan 2012 #32

But you don't live in a society where people don't walk around with guns! Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #36

First, glad you finally see non-toters are less likely to shoot you. Hoyt Jan 2012 #42

I never claimed that. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #44

How attached are you to your computer? Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #17

Sorry, guns are not analogous to computers. Hoyt Jan 2012 #19

Of course they are. I just drew an analogy. Now answer the question. Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #23

Silly analogy IMHO... ellisonz Jan 2012 #48

In reality, what you mean is silly analogy = "an analogy that I don't like Common Sense Party Jan 2012 #54

Certainly, one of the biggest failures pipoman Jan 2012 #6

Agreed. ellisonz Jan 2012 #49

The book mentioned in the interview... spin Jan 2012 #2

NPR is obviously a wingnut group. E6-B Jan 2012 #8

They gotta pander to "gun culture" for money. Sad state of affairs. Hoyt Jan 2012 #20

So, now NPR is pandering to "gun culture?" Where does it end, Hoyt? nt SteveW Jan 2012 #61

Ahhhh it is the terrorist gun. E6-B Jan 2012 #3

That's debatable. Hoyt Jan 2012 #5

Hmmm one-eyed fat man Jan 2012 #10

Shit! I thought it read "Really great price on the Glock handgun..." Union Scribe Jan 2012 #24