Gun Control & RKBA

aikoaiko

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2. Oh, Babylonsister, bless your heart for asking that question here.

Mon Jan 16, 2012, 11:30 PM

Jan 2012

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Truth be told, the answer to your request is complicated. Both sides, exemplified by the NRA on one side, and the Violence Prevention Center/Brady Campaign on the other, lie and distort for their causes. I am a member of the NRA and I readily admit they exaggerate to the point of lying.

Sure, our President has an anti-gun history and campaigned to restrict guns more, but he has backed off from those previous stances almost completely since being elected. He hasn't verbalized a retreat or a change in positions, but he hasn't really talked about it much either.

There is very little danger of guns actually being taken away from owners, but there are many politicians who would like to stop people from buying various newly manufactured firearms.

That's my take on it, in a nutshell.

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I need help, re: guns and gun control. [View all] babylonsister Jan 2012 OP

Well, sounds like his logic is off.. X_Digger Jan 2012 #1

Oh, Babylonsister, bless your heart for asking that question here. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #2

Thanks! I have no problem with people who are members babylonsister Jan 2012 #3

No, the Obama admin has not said it wants to stop the sale of all guns and ammo. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #5

Point out to him that nothing has, in fact, happened. TheWraith Jan 2012 #4

Your are fogetting about the 2005 "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act". GreenStormCloud Jan 2012 #42

Post 2 summed it up best mvccd1000 Jan 2012 #6

I believe that the core of the issue is thus: krispos42 Jan 2012 #7

His first 60 days...... E6-B Jan 2012 #8

That's interesting. What actions or statements are you referring to? aikoaiko Jan 2012 #9

Obama seeks Assault Weapon Ban E6-B Jan 2012 #10

Perhaps you missed this... babylonsister Jan 2012 #11

Perhaps you don't know he wants back the AWB. E6-B Jan 2012 #21

Perhaps there's more to gun control than the AWB... ellisonz Jan 2012 #22

He may want it, but he knows the consequences of pushing for it: Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #37

True enough AG Holder and SoS Clinton both made remarks about renewing the AWB but were silenced. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #14

Bluntly Lurks Often Jan 2012 #12

death spewer enabler....just say no. ileus Jan 2012 #13

Aikoaiko and Krispos have pretty much covered all the bases. Atypical Liberal Jan 2012 #15

You think President Romney won't sign a ban? jeepnstein Jan 2012 #16

I really hope Obama brings up Romney's AWB if he is the Repub candidate aikoaiko Jan 2012 #17

He'd do it, too. jeepnstein Jan 2012 #18

"I can hear it in a debate." Simo 1939_1940 Jan 2012 #38

I agree that the denial to let the US made Garands back in from Korea was lame. aikoaiko Jan 2012 #39

A major factor in gun sales increase is because of tragedies like this one. Unfortunately the Wistful Vista Jan 2012 #19

It is difficult to find major Democratic leaders who are NOT in favor of gun control... SteveW Jan 2012 #20

As pro-gun poster #15 describes: "The NRA is mostly using fear to drum up membership." ellisonz Jan 2012 #23

And so does the Brady Campaign, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, and the VPC. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2012 #24

There's a difference between fear of a spiraling militarization of society... ellisonz Jan 2012 #25

spiraling militarization? gejohnston Jan 2012 #26

Probably because they don't carry guns around and don't shoot each other. Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #33

which has nothing to do with personal guns gejohnston Jan 2012 #35

I would have to say that while Obama has not acted against guns/2A while president... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2012 #27

The NRA is full of shit and lied about Obama in 2008 and will lie about Obama in 2012. They are..... Logical Jan 2012 #28

Allow me to repost from above, his first 40 days in office seeks new assault weapon ban. E6-B Jan 2012 #31

Who will you be voting for in November? Starboard Tack Jan 2012 #34

Want me to list what the NRA said he would do? And compare it to what he REALLY Did? Stop... Logical Jan 2012 #36

Just wear an safeinOhio Jan 2012 #29

Sound advice... ellisonz Jan 2012 #32

I happen to have one, Obama as Superman. babylonsister Jan 2012 #40

I wear one to the gun range and safeinOhio Jan 2012 #41

+1000 ellisonz Jan 2012 #43

It mostly stems from the DLC/Third Way blitz on the "assault weapon" fraud in the '90s through '04. benEzra Jan 2012 #30