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56. It's not nit-picking to point out that Bernie seems to have a blind spot

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Wed May 18, 2016, 03:48 PM

May 2016

when thinking about workers. They aren't all white -- and most of the minority workers support Hillary.

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Bernie just equated working voters with white voters, again. [View all] pnwmom May 2016 OP

UGH. Iliyah May 2016 #1

I see no such equation in this statement. Silver_Witch May 2016 #2

I don't see it, either. I think they are looking at something and finding it because they WANT it to Hiraeth May 2016 #3

Any majority of working voters has to include a substantial number of PoC. Trump pnwmom May 2016 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth May 2016 #7

Please clarify... Haveadream May 2016 #72

The corollary being just as possible... LanternWaste May 2016 #88

Then you can't do math. Any majority of working voters would have to include a substantial pnwmom May 2016 #4

Considering that 90% of minorities consider Trump the scum of the earth and the percentages of Number23 May 2016 #64

Over 40% of the "Working Class" are POC The Polack MSgt May 2016 #6

well, perhaps that breaks it down in terminology pnwmom can understand. Hiraeth May 2016 #9

Senator Sanders may very well want to do what you say JustAnotherGen May 2016 #14

well, you see, now you open it up for discussion about Clinton and Hiraeth May 2016 #15

I don't think she is JustAnotherGen May 2016 #16

see I think she is and that is why you and I will continue to disagree. Hiraeth May 2016 #23

No - we'll disagree JustAnotherGen May 2016 #27

what say you to Nina Turner? Hiraeth May 2016 #31

She is irrelevant to me JustAnotherGen May 2016 #38

And with that I am outta here. Group unsubscribed Hiraeth May 2016 #60

Fantastic! Thanks so much!!! Number23 May 2016 #65

I like it when folks find their own solutions too. Starry Messenger May 2016 #75

Ironically, that's the only statement you've made in this thread that I agree with. Buh Bye! Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #94

How DARE you not think that Nina Turner is incredibly important!!!111 Number23 May 2016 #67

lol Chitown Kev May 2016 #84

Shhh JustAnotherGen May 2016 #85

Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #53

"Hillary hates people." Total B.S. A person who hates people doesn't pnwmom May 2016 #45

There is a lot you don't know about that period. During the 90s the Clintons were setting up this Baobab May 2016 #96

But... isn't that Clinton's plan? Scootaloo May 2016 #25

I'd back away JustAnotherGen May 2016 #28

Very well. Scootaloo May 2016 #33

I will answer it publicly JustAnotherGen May 2016 #37

Even though you don't have to justify anything to anyone....I appreciate your post Digital Puppy May 2016 #40

We have to stop Trump JustAnotherGen May 2016 #41

Wow, JAG. What a life you have had. pnwmom May 2016 #46

You are a gem. A jewel. An incredibly special, remarkable human being Number23 May 2016 #62

You have worked hard my family works hard too!!! rbrnmw May 2016 #70

Wonderful post. Also, about the PBXes Recursion May 2016 #83

Beautifully and passionately stated, JAG. Hekate May 2016 #92

"Sanders knows this, he just wants to get a slice of the slightly less racist white people" Number23 May 2016 #63

It's hyperbole not racism. The point of his whole campaign, I would argue, Blue Meany May 2016 #8

Question... fleabiscuit May 2016 #77

I mean by this people who work for a living Blue Meany May 2016 #79

Do me a favor and update op with JustAnotherGen May 2016 #10

Ooops, I didn't see your post. But GMTA, it seems! KitSileya May 2016 #11

votes of the majority of working people in this country JustAnotherGen May 2016 #12

Not very many working people are in unions anymore gollygee May 2016 #17

Yep JustAnotherGen May 2016 #21

Yes. My cousin had to take her employer to the EOC -- a scary thing to do pnwmom May 2016 #47

This is why we need a Paycheck Fairness Act JustAnotherGen May 2016 #48

If you mean he wanted to raise the lid on social security earnings, of course that should happen. pnwmom May 2016 #49

Yep raise the lid JustAnotherGen May 2016 #50

And I think he missed the rise of the Obama coalition. pnwmom May 2016 #42

Here's a good article about this but about Trump and not Sanders gollygee May 2016 #13

forget those other 60% .... ? you might think you are not saying that but, Hiraeth May 2016 #18

Math gollygee May 2016 #20

Yep again JustAnotherGen May 2016 #22

do you think ALL 40% of those will come out to vote for her? I don't. Hiraeth May 2016 #24

Have you done a survey? gollygee May 2016 #26

a formal survey? lol. Look, where I was working there are more black people than white Hiraeth May 2016 #30

NAFTA did away with jobs where I live too gollygee May 2016 #32

The youger blacks that have talked are not registered to vote and think the whole thing is a joke. Hiraeth May 2016 #34

I think it's arrogant to say that people vote against Bernie because they lack information gollygee May 2016 #35

personally, I think this whole thread/OP is arrogant. I am done here. Hiraeth May 2016 #36

After reading your posts in this thread, I'm not the slightest bit surprised that black people would Number23 May 2016 #68

They voted for President Obama. And I think they will vote for Hillary and against Trump. pnwmom May 2016 #44

Yes. Romney lost even though he had the majority of white men and white women. pnwmom May 2016 #43

Thanks for this link. The Polack MSgt May 2016 #19

I agree that he's not doing it purposely -- the same as some of the problems with women. pnwmom May 2016 #39

So women, African Americans, Hispanic/Latinos don't belong to the working class. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #29

PoC have fit nicely into the Hillary Clinton victim/aggressor/divider policy. More the pity for the highprincipleswork May 2016 #51

bernie has jumped the shark MariaThinks May 2016 #52

That's so Hillary! CanadaexPat May 2016 #54

Sounds like nit-picking at a generalization to me. immoderate May 2016 #55

It's not nit-picking to point out that Bernie seems to have a blind spot pnwmom May 2016 #56

Bernie doesn't think all workers are white. immoderate May 2016 #57

He must have been thinking that when he said this: pnwmom May 2016 #58

Well, I don't think he anticipated this level of equivocation. immoderate May 2016 #59

Equivocation? You mean, attentive reading? n/t pnwmom May 2016 #66

Yeah, reading things that aren't there. immoderate May 2016 #78

Ah, 'inference!' A valid literary method of both communicating and understanding LanternWaste May 2016 #90

Can things be inferred that were not implied? immoderate May 2016 #91

I too, used to imply that 'clear, concise language' is simply a tactic. LanternWaste May 2016 #89

he has shiity advisors. JI7 May 2016 #61

Read Josh Marshall at TPM. It's not Bernie's advisors that are the problem Number23 May 2016 #69

I really thought he was getting advice from Weaver rbrnmw May 2016 #71

I thought the same thing. That he was a great guy just getting bad advice Number23 May 2016 #73

I started out a supporter last Summer rbrnmw May 2016 #74

Yeah, the TPM piece really troubled me Recursion May 2016 #86

Wow. There's no doubt in my mind it's absolutely correct. fleabiscuit May 2016 #80

i still wonder if it's lack of good advisors, his campaign is full of people who hate clinton JI7 May 2016 #82

I don't see nor do I even hear of any quotes or suggestions that Bernie did as such. RepubliCON-Watch May 2016 #76

It's 2016. lovemydog May 2016 #81

Sanders is attempting to run a very specific "revolution" ismnotwasm May 2016 #87

White working class people were away us is target..... bettyellen May 2016 #93

BS' constant derision of "identity politics" wasn't a dogwhistle, it was a foghorn. I've known.... Tarheel_Dem May 2016 #95

Weird, I could have sworn that most working class Americans vote D YoungDemCA May 2016 #97