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cbayer

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37. There is a difference between admiration for a historical figure and what a religious believer

Thu Jan 2, 2014, 12:31 PM

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holds to be true about those they feel are somehow divine.

In the religious narrative, these people are not mere mortals with the normal human faults, but held to a much higher standard.

While I think many christians can see jesus's weak spots in an achilles heel sort of way, you can't really expect them to define his "vices".

I don't think that someone who takes a believer to task for discrepancies is a fundamentalist or a literalist. But I do object to those who demand that anyone that believes must believe in every word or they are hypocrites.

I'm not sure there is that much difference in being a fundamentalist/literalist and insisting that others are somehow false if they are not.

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Why does the right wing [View all] OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 OP

For the same reason they use patriotism. rug Dec 2013 #1

So what you are saying OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #2

I do agree with you. Religion is, and has been used by them for centuries. rug Dec 2013 #3

Why do you think they're lying? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #4

I don't OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #6

"Jesus tells his followers faith in god shall ensure they never get sick or go hungry. Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2014 #45

Until and unless you develop the ability to read minds... trotsky Dec 2013 #5

Not so OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #7

You must be right. trotsky Dec 2013 #8

Then OLDMDDEM Dec 2013 #23

Some interesting comments from The Slactivist on a related subject el_bryanto Dec 2013 #9

Conservatives claim that those of us okasha Dec 2013 #10

I know! Nuts, isn't it? trotsky Dec 2013 #11

"Accept the diversity of the Bible" Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #14

Oh, it's totally different! trotsky Dec 2013 #15

I came home and found a bag of Haribo gummi bears bereft of my favorite pineapple Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #17

Conservatives accept the diversity okasha Dec 2013 #16

Of course. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #18

I'm not sure why cherry picking is considered a bad thing. cbayer Dec 2013 #20

No one is saying it is a bad thing... Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #21

I agree with you. cbayer Dec 2013 #22

What have I seen here that's not honest? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2014 #36

There is a difference between admiration for a historical figure and what a religious believer cbayer Jan 2014 #37

You've missed the point completely Act_of_Reparation Jan 2014 #38

Of course I missed the point completely. cbayer Jan 2014 #42

If I thought that were the case, I wouldn't have bothered responding to you in the first place Act_of_Reparation Jan 2014 #43

I would respectfully suggest that when you start your response with something like, cbayer Jan 2014 #44

I recognize one of those assertions as mine-- okasha Jan 2014 #40

Nice try, but not. Act_of_Reparation Jan 2014 #41

Sorry, but you're wrong again. okasha Jan 2014 #46

Do you not understand what "evidence" means? Act_of_Reparation Jan 2014 #47

As has been pointed out to you innumerable times... trotsky Dec 2013 #26

Congratulations! okasha Dec 2013 #32

You obviously haven't spent much time talking to religious conservatives Act_of_Reparation Dec 2013 #33

You seem to be responding to your own posts, okasha Dec 2013 #34

Have at it we all await your attempt. Leontius Jan 2014 #39

It's remarkable how you can be so assured in knowing what someone else thinks. trotsky Dec 2013 #35

Absolutely! trotsky Dec 2013 #19

I think the point might be more that el_bryanto Dec 2013 #24

I have never heard an atheist say such a thing. trotsky Dec 2013 #25

OK - assuming Christians want to keep believing in the Bible, in which would you advise them el_bryanto Dec 2013 #27

Oh, my opinion is irrelevant. trotsky Dec 2013 #28

I feel kind of bad for you and your fellow anti-Catholic cranks. el_bryanto Dec 2013 #29

90% of Americans had a positive view of G.W.Bush after 9/11. trotsky Dec 2013 #30

Well keep at it. nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #31

The pope has recently taken these RW christians to task for their positions on cbayer Dec 2013 #12

Interestingly, the pope sides with the evangelical right when it comes to those issues... trotsky Dec 2013 #13