Karma: a poll

[Heddi]

34. but it is a judgement though

She said that how you die tends to reflect how you lived. She said it several times in this thread.
"I also think that if you treat others poorly, you will receive bad in return. "
"Some were surrounded with love and comfort, some were not. Not always, but sometimes that is a direct reflection of how they have behaved with other people. "

How is that not making a judgement about the person? Even with the qualifier "sometimes," it's still her personal approximation of "how they behaved with other people."

Based on what? ON NOTHING BUT HER ASSUMPTIONS.

It's not about good or bad. Painful or pleasant. It's death. It happens to all of us. Good or bad. Those that treated others well and those that didn't. Those that behaved well with other people and those that didn't.

Your dad died a long painful death. According to cbayer, that may have very well been because of how he lived his life. How he interacted with other people. Maybe if he was more pleasant his death would have been more pleasant. That's her own approximation of death and life based on HER OWN WORDS that I posted above.

Now, of course I don't believe in Karma. I think it's an feel-good way of victim-blaming that is couched in touchy-feely bullshit that people buy for some reason as being "compassionate." It's not compassionate. It's amongst one of the LEAST compassionate philosophies out there

Yes, it feels very nice to say "oh, that rapist...may karma get him!!" but what's karma if not a bad thing happening because you did a bad thing (in this example)? So when can you judge if it's Karma vs "a bad thing happening"? You can't. No one can. But they do.

Cbayer does. Bad people have bad deaths. Generally. In her experience. Good people have good deaths. Generally. In her experience.

It's bullshit. It's not selective. Karma is effective for EVERYONE or for NO ONE. A rapist getting Karma! Yeah! a 9 year old being raped...wait...is that karmic retribution for something....? a past life perhaps? With Karma, it doesn't matter. This life, past life, 983 lives ago. Every bad thing is for a reason. Good people don't have bad things happen to them because they have learned their lesson. That's what Karma is, like it or not.

I do not presume to judge someone's life at the moment of their death. Cbayer does, and seems pretty sure about herself doing it. And, for the record, this isn't the first time she's bragged about her deathbed life judgements. She's spoken of it before, and I"ve called her out on it before. It's a disgusting way to look at life and an inhumane way to view someone---ANYONE---in the moment of their death. I would much rather die alone than to die in the company of a sanctimonious jerk who feels that they can make a summation of ENTIRETY of my life based on the last seconds of it. Fuck that shit.