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In reply to the discussion: Is Atheism a Belief? [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)88. No I'm actually being repeating your claim that atheism is a belief.
In this very thread you defined atheism when you posted this:
guillaumeb
12. If it cannot be proven, it is a belief.
Thank you for the easy question.
12. If it cannot be proven, it is a belief.
Thank you for the easy question.
I'm sure there are many other examples but one is enough to establish that you are indeed defining my atheism. You didn't say some atheism is a belief or that some atheists believe - you defined atheism as a belief even though your own dictionary definition doesn't state categorically that it is one.
You have also seen other definitions that define it as a lack of belief but you keep ignoring those because that would mean admitting you're wrong.
'Viewing' all atheism as belief is obviously incorrect, countless definitions prove that including the one you cited.
And your insistence that we're wrong in spite of that fact is offensive and intolerant.
A tolerant position would be: some atheism, specifically gnostic atheism, can be defined as a belief and other atheism, specifically agnostic atheism is defined as a lack of belief.
Why is that so difficult.
And to address your absurd claim - why on earth would I want your posts deleted? I want people to understand why it's intolerant to define others.
This is a teaching moment for me, and you're not the only pupil.
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I've always found this topic fertile ground for pedantry and equivocation.
Act_of_Reparation
Mar 2017
#1
yes ........... atheists believe there is no god ............. that is a belief
Angry Dragon
Mar 2017
#6
Nice try but I want to know if it's a belief to NOT believe the earth is flat.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#57
That doesn't answer my question. Why is lack of belief in your god special?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#61
You have 'met' plenty in this forum who told you they have no belief in gods.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#72
So because you haven't 'met' us in meat space we don't get to define our own atheism?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#78
You linked to the op. Which is odd because I don't see where it includes a different definition.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#82
No I'm actually being repeating your claim that atheism is a belief.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#88
What does that statement even mean? What is your source for that claim?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#93
Your opinion seems to be a belief. You're claiming every opinion is a belief.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#99
They absolutely do matter. What is your belief that Santa doesn't exist called?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#73
So you think belief in climate change is the same as belief in mythological creatures?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#84
Gods are unprovable, climate change is settled science, just like evolution and gravity.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#89
Is the evidence unequivocal that human caused warming is the cause of climate
guillaumeb
Mar 2017
#101
It's amazing that we have to keep fighting for the right to define ourselves.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2017
#43