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Fri May 26, 2017, 10:46 PM May 2017

We Cant Ignore the Racism of the Most Famous Humanists in American History [View all]

May 15, 2017
by Hemant Mehta

Is there a connection between Humanism and race? There are no doubt atheists who believe the question of God marks the end of what we all have in common, but Dr. Anthony Pinn argues that the two subjects must go hand in hand. If we’re committed to making this life as good as it can be, we must be active in fighting for racial justice, especially when religion has been used to justify oppression and discrimination.

In his powerful new book When Colorblindness Isn’t the Answer: Humanism and the Challenge of Race (Pitchstone Publishing, 2017), Pinn makes the case for why Humanists have failed to “provide a more compelling alternative to theism” for various minority groups and how we can change that.



In the excerpt below, Pinn points out how some of the Founding Fathers atheists point to in admiration can’t be separated from their own racist behavior.

"Celebration of humanists across the centuries often fails to acknowledge the underbelly of humanism, or the ways in which it is similar to theism: both have a long legacy of problematic stances toward race.

"According to Susan Jacoby, only two freethinkers, or humanists, have received appropriate attention — Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. I am not in a position to advance nor deny that argument. And for the purposes of this text such an exploration isn’t necessary. Suffice it to say, they are important figures within the history of the United States and within humanist circles. And, the relationship between freethought and race presented by such figures is instructive. Both were men of great intellect and profound importance for the establishment of the United States as a secular nation, and both at least passively endorsed (e.g., inherited slave estates) the system of slavery.

"What I offer here isn’t a history lesson on the philosophy of these two figures, but rather something about them and humanists’ appreciation for them speaks to challenges regarding race worthy of addressing. I’m not especially concerned with the details of their secular thinking, the degrees to which they were definable as humanists based on contemporary understandings of the terminology. The fact that humanists claim them and do so with significant energy, for my purposes, is sufficient. They, as some might put it, are case studies of a sort that point to some incorrect assumptions made by some humanists. Secular government was and remained intimately linked to the problem of race acted out as racism. What are contemporary humanists to say about this?

"For instance, again take Thomas Jefferson and his undeniable importance with respect to the articulation of the principles, values, and ideals that shape democracy in the United States, as well as his significance regarding public, higher education vis-à-vis the University of Virginia. Jefferson was also a slaveholder, whose wealth and influence was dependent upon a system of brutality that held in inhumane bondage peoples of African descent — beings whose humanity was questioned and who were without will to determine their own life options. He framed the workings of democracy as the political system of the new United States, but he supported the system of slavery through his direct participation in it. I’ve not heard much made of this latter point. Yet, isn’t it important? Doesn’t it provide a warrant for humility, and for a more balanced presentation of humanism, warts and all?

"Theists assume the plausibility of perfection and as a consequence demand its significant figures be without flaws or at least — like the biblical figure King David — have notable signs of God’s favor that blur out the messiness of life or at least point beyond it. Paradox and tension are difficult for theists, certainly when the paradox isn’t resolved or the tension eased. For theists, history is purpose driven; the universe is concerned with and about humanity. And, situations and topics that challenge the pleasantries of this assumption trouble theists. On the other hand, humanists, with a more mature sense of humanity, shouldn’t hold to the same demand for a stain-free existence. But yet, there appears to be at least a passive effort to remove the taint of racism from humanist legends such as Jefferson. Yes, Jefferson feared slavery would destroy the nation in that it was a plague with dire consequences. He believed ending slavery in Virginia and elsewhere also held the potential to flood the nation with a population it could not absorb and that couldn’t integrate in a significant manner because of its inherent and undeniable inferiority.

"Here we have it in brief: a significant humanist figure with significance to the United States from its initial formation to the present is also a prime example of the status quo in the form of race-based oppression. In a word, Jefferson represents both humanism and racism. One might argue Jefferson and those like him were “men” of their age — trapped in the workings of their time period and shaped by the sociocultural codes of that historical moment. This is true and this is why I would never suggest we ignore, for instance, Jefferson’s contributions to our particular structuring of democracy and our resulting best practices of collective life. However, recognizing this doesn’t free humanists from also recognizing the manner in which he represents some of the most troubling practices of race-based violence witnessed in the modern period. The former is to be celebrated and the latter acknowledged with every effort to learn from bad policy and behavior, and not repeat it. Will such an admission — despite the fact that plenty of Christians bought and traded in slaves, disregarded American Indians, and abused Latinos/as — fuel hostility toward humanists and prove for the general U.S. population that humanism is immortal and flawed? Can humanists acknowledge participation in racism and maintain their critique of theistically fueled injustice?

"It’s a delicate balance to be sure: a problem and solution wrapped in one and tied together nicely with a bow of energetic prophecy that screams accept these proclamations or experience eternal damnation… because God loves you to death. Within Christianity, the dominant tradition in the United States, this tension is in part a consequence of a really low opinion of humans and human nature. Based on a rather bizarre creation story, humans start out behind the curve, with a warped nature — the stories go — marked by a tendency toward immorality, disobedience, and questionable values. Left to their own devices, this demented story continues, humans will do no good. And so Christians spend so much time trying to correct for this original flaw, while also thinking of their condition as an opportunity for God to prove God’s goodness.

"Those who are despised take every opportunity to demonstrate that actually they are beyond reproach — upstanding people, with integrity, values, and an important role to play in the life of the nation. A type of respectability guides this thinking: if we can prove ourselves acceptable — whatever that means at the time — we will gain the status and' the position we merit. As I see it, some version of that thinking is in play in many humanist circles concerning a variety of topics. Still, to claim figures such as Thomas Jefferson and in this way lodge humanism in the workings of the United States is also to tie humanism to various modalities of racial injustice. What to do?

"Humanists embrace this respectability position with issues such as racism; and, racial minorities such as African Americans have been forced to do it with respect to virtually every social ill. Any crime implicates all; any social slip implicates all, and so on. Will theists use this information (as well known as it is) against humanists? And, would such a strategy harm the effort of humanists to make the United States a more secular nation? And so there is in some quarters a tendency to hide the unpleasant dimensions of life lived by some humanists, to downplay any significance. This is an understandable approach, but it does raise a point worth consideration.

"Still, to embrace Jefferson, then, is to acknowledge at least a subtle connection to both a legacy of profound humanist thought and a legacy of profound humanist racism. This does not mean humanism and humanists are inherently racist; but it does do damage to a too popular assumption that humanism doesn’t bend to the social construction of race in ways that would make it a significant part of the racism problem."

When Colorblindness Isn’t the Answer: Humanism and the Challenge of Race is available now online and in bookstores.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2017/05/15/we-cant-ignore-the-racism-of-the-most-famous-humanists-in-american-history/

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interesting heaven05 May 2017 #1
Here's some author info. rug May 2017 #2
thank you heaven05 May 2017 #3
It's the flip side of ad hominem. Igel May 2017 #4
Are you in the Alt Right? Bretton Garcia Jun 2017 #124
No, we can't. Was someone saying we should? trotsky May 2017 #5
There is a lot of attention being paid to it Lordquinton May 2017 #6
And have you actually done so? guillaumeb May 2017 #8
More often than the inverse Lordquinton May 2017 #12
I actually directed the question to another. guillaumeb May 2017 #17
My mistake, I thought this was an open forum Lordquinton May 2017 #20
Numerous times. Simply look at my recent posts for examples. guillaumeb May 2017 #21
You posted a middle of the line article Lordquinton May 2017 #26
Keep searching, if you really wish to. I have posted a few. guillaumeb May 2017 #29
Ok, lets look at them Lordquinton Jun 2017 #68
Each time I present a critical post, you are resetting the bar a bit higher. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #70
You still have yet to answer why posts at DU are required to please you. trotsky Jun 2017 #76
Still looking for those posts pointing out negative actions taken by non-theists. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #78
Good. trotsky Jun 2017 #79
I don't think those posts exist. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #80
I cannot say that they exist or not, guillaumeb Jun 2017 #81
lol that is the religion room for you. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #82
Amusing and revealing. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #83
Yes and I have my own hypocrisies here. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #84
As do we all. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #85
very true. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #86
Probably hard to see it Lordquinton Jun 2017 #89
Ah yes, the quick change of subject to avoid the actual point. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #93
That is a common tactic used by theists Lordquinton Jun 2017 #103
What an interesting way to attempt to frame and control discussion. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #106
And you avoid what I said and post an ad-hom Lordquinton Jun 2017 #108
Much that happens here is quite typical. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #116
Be the change you want to see. Lordquinton Jun 2017 #119
What would this group be like if everyone followed that suggestion? guillaumeb Jun 2017 #120
I am doing exactly what I intend to Lordquinton Jun 2017 #121
If someone frames a question in such a way as to permit only a negative guillaumeb Jun 2017 #122
Interesting that you view the questions I ask as only having negative answers Lordquinton Jun 2017 #123
I do not agree with the ruling, guillaumeb Jun 2017 #125
Took you long enough to get that out! Lordquinton Jun 2017 #126
I had no idea there was a time limit. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #127
I have yet to see a unequivocally critical post Lordquinton Jun 2017 #87
You set a very high bar for your perceived opponents. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #94
Here you go. trotsky Jun 2017 #95
A failure. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #96
WTF??? trotsky Jun 2017 #97
Mildly critical of the politics of one person, guillaumeb Jun 2017 #98
OK, about what I figured. trotsky Jun 2017 #99
One. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #100
Yes, one. trotsky Jun 2017 #101
You are blinded by privilege Lordquinton Jun 2017 #105
So the numerous coments about the stupidity of believers guillaumeb Jun 2017 #107
Example? Lordquinton Jun 2017 #109
Please. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #117
Ok Lordquinton Jun 2017 #118
A reminder for anyone who isn't familiar with your favorite example of "atheistic intolerance": trotsky Jun 2017 #45
Yes, and only one side of that story is presented. Mariana Jun 2017 #47
LOL, exactly. trotsky Jun 2017 #48
I think the answer is a no on that one. hrmjustin May 2017 #22
Well, as a relatively new member, guillaumeb May 2017 #23
Since I have been here I have not seen it happen. hrmjustin May 2017 #24
Interesting! guillaumeb May 2017 #25
Sigh. trotsky May 2017 #31
That did not answer his question. hrmjustin May 2017 #32
What did you really expect? guillaumeb May 2017 #33
This room is usually amusing and frustrating. hrmjustin May 2017 #34
I would say far more of the latter. guillaumeb May 2017 #36
Maybe they're hard to find Cartoonist Jun 2017 #46
Blaming your upbringing? guillaumeb Jun 2017 #53
Brainwashing is no joke Cartoonist Jun 2017 #56
Brainwashing is the pejorative term for socialization. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #57
Could be Cartoonist Jun 2017 #58
You MIGHT think that, (referring to your projection regarding atheist parents), guillaumeb Jun 2017 #64
It's the case for me. EvilAL Jun 2017 #128
Living a good life is the ultimate goal. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #129
What you wrote: guillaumeb May 2017 #35
Koresh almighty. trotsky May 2017 #37
I understand your answer, and expected it to take the form that it did. guillaumeb May 2017 #38
No, you don't understand my answer. trotsky May 2017 #39
A double standard? guillaumeb May 2017 #40
You just keep on doing what you're doing. trotsky Jun 2017 #43
Do you not realize that you are also setting an example? guillaumeb Jun 2017 #49
Well, as you've made clear in the past, you think I'm quite stupid. trotsky Jun 2017 #59
I am one of those "few people"? hrmjustin May 2017 #41
Well, considering you have received no response........... guillaumeb Jun 2017 #50
Oh I already knew and I am fine with it. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #55
Interesting! hrmjustin May 2017 #10
The same can be said edhopper May 2017 #7
Perhaps Rug is attempting to provide some perspective. guillaumeb May 2017 #9
As if edhopper May 2017 #11
We see more anti-religion posts in this room. hrmjustin May 2017 #13
what​ happened? edhopper May 2017 #14
I will pm you. hrmjustin May 2017 #15
What wish is that? Lordquinton May 2017 #27
if you say so. hrmjustin May 2017 #28
I have not personally seen any, quite the opposite in fact, guillaumeb May 2017 #16
I don't think edhopper May 2017 #18
Intolerance can be expressed in many ways. guillaumeb May 2017 #19
I include edhopper Jun 2017 #42
Any belief can be used to excuse doing harm to another. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #51
That's a completely and utterly false statement. trotsky Jun 2017 #61
And once again, since you're in the RELIGION group... trotsky Jun 2017 #44
I keep looking in the atheists group. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #52
So...? trotsky Jun 2017 #60
Keep checking the religious groups for negative posts about theists Lordquinton Jun 2017 #62
Ha! trotsky Jun 2017 #63
I personally have found many. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #65
Sure you have. n/t trotsky Jun 2017 #66
Astounding response. guillaumeb Jun 2017 #71
Yours deserved another. n/t trotsky Jun 2017 #74
Like the one you posted before? Lordquinton Jun 2017 #67
Or the one about the lawyer for the American Family Association. trotsky Jun 2017 #75
As you have seen believers here have no problem talking about the problems of religion. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #69
True. And "rug" is an example of a believer who constantly posts guillaumeb Jun 2017 #72
The room is not the same without him. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #73
Couldn't agree more Lordquinton Jun 2017 #88
Yes I know how you feel. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #90
I don't want to get into it for obvious reasons Lordquinton Jun 2017 #91
Yet here you are rubbing it in my face that my friend is flagged. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #92
That doesn't change the posters behavior Lordquinton Jun 2017 #102
. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #104
This is getting too deep into meta Lordquinton Jun 2017 #112
Just because you consider him a friend doesn't mean EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2017 #114
No one is without faults, but if you think he hated atheists than you weren't paying attention. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #115
Why is he flagged? AtheistCrusader Jun 2017 #110
I can't see his posts. hrmjustin Jun 2017 #111
Because Lordquinton Jun 2017 #113
Nor should we. Eko May 2017 #30
"We" do not Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #54
Applying modern day standards to the world of 200 years ago is a beachbum bob Jun 2017 #77
And of the most famous non-humanists too LeftishBrit Jul 2017 #130
Religions may have bigotry codified in their holy texts Bradical79 Jul 2017 #131
But that's the key problem when religion is in the mix. trotsky Jul 2017 #132
Absolutely Bradical79 Jul 2017 #133
We shouldn't ignore the racism of Jesus, either. Gore1FL Jul 2017 #134
Has anyone violated Godwin's law yet? beam me up scottie Jul 2017 #135
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