Religion
In reply to the discussion: Religious?? ...............Who Cares?? [View all]DetlefK
(16,423 posts)You just complained that there is no independent thought in organized religion.
And then you complained that christian religions cannot agree among themselves...
It wasn't the church who "found" the laws of nature. It was organized religion that made such a thing as laws of nature THINKABLE.
Laws of nature exist independent from your individual beliefs. Therefore, universal laws are only thinkable if you accept that there is something more important than your personal religious beliefs. If your individual beliefs trump universal laws, then they are not universal.
The concept of laws of nature goes back to the ancient greek concept of the "demiourgos": the concept that a god rules not by his present will, but by the order he imposed on the world back in the past.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demiurge
The medieval philosopher Ramon Llull made this concept popular again, by postulating that the christian God has established a natural order of things: laws of nature. He also invented a system how to categorize the whole universe, from the four elements to the minerals to plants to animals to humans to stars to angels to God.
For example, the philosopher (and heretic) Giordano Bruno postulated that seemingly different things in nature can be traced back to one single origin, a group of those origins come frome yet another single origin, and so forth.
This philosophical concept that laws of nature EXIST was one of the founding pillars of modern science.
Please answer this question:
Why do you accept as true the concept that laws of nature exist?
Why are you okay with this tyranny taking precedent over your individual religious beliefs?