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73. Then why did you categorize this as "good news"?

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Good news: 'This movement is evil: Religious leaders denounce White Lives Matter rallies [View all] guillaumeb Oct 2017 OP

I thought you said they were supposed to be tolerated in this country. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #1

Do you really not understand that you are talking about 2 different topics? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #2

The confusion comes from you, g. trotsky Oct 2017 #5

No, the apparent confusion seems to be limited to a very few in this group. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #9

So in this instance you are keenly aware of the nuances Lordquinton Oct 2017 #16

LOL!!! n/t trotsky Oct 2017 #21

And the choir is in near perfect harmony. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #25

Um, so do you understand that putting "eom" on the end of your subject line... trotsky Oct 2017 #26

I do, but I do make mistakes. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #28

Sure. trotsky Oct 2017 #29

So can I expect an apology for the few times you have accused me guillaumeb Oct 2017 #31

I am sorry that I ever accused you of claiming to define Christianity. trotsky Oct 2017 #35

I am amazed. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #36

As I figured. trotsky Oct 2017 #37

I admitted that I cannot remember which of the things that I said guillaumeb Oct 2017 #38

OK, I'll naively play along. trotsky Oct 2017 #39

I should have remembered that one. And it was my error. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #40

And look! YOU APOLOGIZED AND YOU'RE STILL ALIVE! trotsky Oct 2017 #41

The end of theism is a metaphorical description of the numerous posts guillaumeb Oct 2017 #52

As long as we're on the topic Pope George Ringo II Oct 2017 #68

"a metaphorical description" trotsky Nov 2017 #71

While you're at it... trotsky Oct 2017 #44

I might ask why your posts are not entered into your journal? But I do not care. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #53

I don't use the journal feature, so I fail to see why that matters. trotsky Nov 2017 #70

An interesting attack you made, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #79

The real reason for asking for links? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #75

Post removed Post removed Nov 2017 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author guillaumeb Nov 2017 #82

Accusing me of being dishonest? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #83

You certainly have the privilege of using the self-delete function. Mariana Nov 2017 #84

It is an attempt to frame by claiming that using the function is an attempt to hide something. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #85

Not a penalty. nt. Mariana Nov 2017 #86

Of course not. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #88

No, they aren't. Mariana Nov 2017 #89

No? Read this: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #90

Lolololololololololo Lordquinton Nov 2017 #92

No Lordquinton Oct 2017 #48

Not true at all. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #54

That's not a definition. Pope George Ringo II Oct 2017 #65

No, you have defined atheism for others Lordquinton Oct 2017 #67

Were you not one who also claimed that I define Christianity for others? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #56

Did I stutter? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #66

So you persist in this statement. Which misdefines my own expressed beliefs. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #77

No misidentification here Lordquinton Nov 2017 #91

I said that I was not a literalist. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #94

Nice try Lordquinton Nov 2017 #104

Okay. I concede that you have convinced yourself. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #109

So everyone who has called you out on this Lordquinton Nov 2017 #111

"Everyone" in your context is a handful. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #113

That is a way to describe the people reading this group Lordquinton Nov 2017 #122

A few of the people. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #124

So what? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #127

Side note: this is an attempt at reframing Lordquinton Nov 2017 #125

Shenanigans. 😀 sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #143

Literalists can and do gum up the works. IMO. EOMMM. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #106

The pope gums up the works? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #112

I'm befuddled. Which doesn't take much.😤 sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #115

The pope is a biblical literalist Lordquinton Nov 2017 #123

I'm sorry. Say that again? S-l-o-w-l-y, please. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #138

I don't know how planer I can say it Lordquinton Nov 2017 #151

Thee pope. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #155

I can't speak fully to your points Lordquinton Nov 2017 #161

You guys appreciate nuance? sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #168

This is interesting, but if you do not wish to respond, I understand. eom sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #139

So you have nothing? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #47

No, the reframing is obvious here. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #87

Like how you reframed that one question Lordquinton Nov 2017 #93

Except that I did not. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #95

Still maintaining that story? Lordquinton Nov 2017 #105

Sure, g. trotsky Oct 2017 #20

I'm not confused at all. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #14

You still sound confused. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #32

I'm not the one confused. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2017 #45

Reminds me of a quote from a famous sailor. trotsky Oct 2017 #46

Define many people? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #55

Well, since this is a discussion here Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #74

I was taking issue with your initial wording. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #81

Scores of clergy across Tennessee. Mariana Oct 2017 #3

True story Pope George Ringo II Oct 2017 #24

Yeah, great. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #4

GOOD NEWS, EVERYONE! n/t trotsky Oct 2017 #6

... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #7

What an amazing coincidence. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #8

Thats Professor Farnsworth of Futurama and his catchphrase Rob H. Oct 2017 #17

When everyone says you're wrong for exactly the same reason... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #18

Do not conflate a tiny group of frequent posters guillaumeb Oct 2017 #27

So when I say "everyone"... Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #42

So when you write "everyone", guillaumeb Oct 2017 #59

This is the part where I say "I can only define it for myself", right? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2017 #69

Use his weapons to your advantage. trotsky Nov 2017 #72

Well said. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #78

Gil, if your posts are being misunderstood all the time Mariana Oct 2017 #50

Look at my many posts in other areas, guillaumeb Oct 2017 #60

You take very generic position marylandblue Nov 2017 #96

An interesting analysis. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #97

Maybe banal or trivial is a better description than generic marylandblue Nov 2017 #100

I find such questions as "should we tolerate Nazis" to be pointless. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #101

There is a long history of argument and misunderstanding among you and other posters marylandblue Nov 2017 #103

A good observation. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #108

Allow me to add this to my response: guillaumeb Nov 2017 #102

Wow, so now it's an Internet conspiracy against you? trotsky Oct 2017 #22

And the choir is in near perfect harmony. eom guillaumeb Oct 2017 #10

Okay, here is a different voice. marylandblue Oct 2017 #11

How's that new catch phrase going? Lordquinton Oct 2017 #15

Writing a good catch phrase can be hard. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2017 #19

Bad news: Even more praised it. MineralMan Oct 2017 #12

But it was scores of them, MineralMan. Mariana Oct 2017 #13

How many are there? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #33

It's enough to make SCORES statistically insignificant. Mariana Oct 2017 #49

So do you feel we should reject those with whom we agree? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #57

Build alliances with scores of religious leaders? Mariana Oct 2017 #61

We can build bridges, or build walls. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #62

Frankly, I'm not interested in building bridges Mariana Oct 2017 #63

Then we clearly disagree on tactics. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #64

Better ways to talk a LOT of these white people down off the ledge rather than calling them evil. AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #23

Feel free to discuss the ways you do so. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #34

It's simple. You ask them if they would respond to a Breast Cancer fundraising/awareness campaign AtheistCrusader Oct 2017 #43

I agree. guillaumeb Oct 2017 #51

Then why did you categorize this as "good news"? trotsky Nov 2017 #73

Denunciation of intolerance is good news. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #80

So denouncing those people's behavior as evil is good news. Mariana Nov 2017 #98

Denouncing racism and white supremacy IS good news in my opinion. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #99

guillaubeb saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #30

Denouncing white nationalists is not a good act? guillaumeb Oct 2017 #58

Hiya. You just wrote something that may go over sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #107

An excellent suggestion. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #110

Wise sage. (Heheh.) sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #114

Do you think this bit is working? Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #116

Please clarify what 'bit'. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #117

I don't even know why I'm on here. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #118

What. The bit about the wise sage or my take on sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #119

They spend a lot of time talking past each other marylandblue Nov 2017 #120

IF you call it a positive act, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #121

No marylandblue Nov 2017 #126

An arbitrary and personal definition. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #128

Don't you believe that all definitions are arbitrary and personal? marylandblue Nov 2017 #130

When we are talking of labels, yes, they can be. eom guillaumeb Nov 2017 #131

Then you shouldn't have a problem if someone marylandblue Nov 2017 #132

Not even the same topic. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #133

I don't think you have sympathy for Nazis marylandblue Nov 2017 #134

But that is a "logical leap" that requires facts in evidence. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #135

I don't need facts in evidence if I can define my own terms EOM marylandblue Nov 2017 #136

True, but the debate arises when one applies those self-defined terms guillaumeb Nov 2017 #137

No there is no debate marylandblue Nov 2017 #141

Facts in evidence: Lordquinton Nov 2017 #152

And if you have no facts, is it permissible to construct them? guillaumeb Nov 2017 #162

I can make my own personal definition of facts and construction marylandblue Nov 2017 #163

This thread destroyed that claim Lordquinton Nov 2017 #164

I think I see what you mean. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #140

Yup. marylandblue Nov 2017 #142

Thing is, a poster says something and they get jumped on, pulled apart and sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #145

A lot of people on this site are New Atheists marylandblue Nov 2017 #149

Okay. I see how some who have embraced atheism more recently than not sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #153

Some posters get "jumped on" a lot more than others. Mariana Nov 2017 #160

And if a member accuses another of one thing, guillaumeb Nov 2017 #165

... Mariana Nov 2017 #166

You ignored my response, and my questions. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #170

Okay, those offenses would be a bummer. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #167

Would I be thrilled to see one come into the fold? Mariana Nov 2017 #144

You be thrilled for your fold and I be happy happy joy for mine. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #146

I was quoting you. Sorry I didn't use the correct punctuation. Mariana Nov 2017 #147

Can we pick this up l8r? Gotta cook supper for dogga and dogga's pop. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #148

Sure, take your time. nt. Mariana Nov 2017 #150

Not as young as I used to be. In body, not mind/spirit. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #154

You said, Mariana Nov 2017 #156

The Church. The Church Community of Communicants. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #157

That's not to say you may also have a 'fold' wherein sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #158

Interestingly enough, I wonder the same thing at times when you post. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #129

I think I'm pretty straightforward with my style. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2017 #159

Did y'all call me homely? sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #169

A nice response. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #171

At times, I do speaketh truth. 😉 😇/😈 sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #172

If you grew up stateside, way back if someone said, "I resemble that!", it was a play on words, sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #173

I actually did not. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #174

There's just something about you I do sense and like. sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #175

And peace to you and yours. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #176

Appreciative. Yes, peace be 'to all' who seek, ask, and respond concerning sprinkleeninow Nov 2017 #177