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yallerdawg

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Mon Dec 25, 2017, 05:20 PM Dec 2017

How Can I Possibly Believe That Faith Is Better Than Doubt? [View all]

Source: New York Times Opinion Page, by Peter Wehner

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This question is compounded during periods like this one, when faith seems to distort reality rather than clarify it, when it’s easily manipulated for low rather than high purpose and when some of those who claim to be people of faith act in ways that bring dishonor to it and themselves.

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But faith itself, while not the converse of reason, is still distinct from it. If it seems like that’s asking too much — if you think leaps of faith are for children rather than adults — consider this: Materialists, rationalists and atheists ultimately place their trust in certain propositions that require faith. To say that truth is only intelligible through reason is itself a statement of faith. Denying the existence of God is as much a leap of faith as asserting it. As the pastor Tim Keller told me, “Most of the things we most deeply believe in — for example, human rights and human equality — are not empirically provable.”

“The supreme function of reason is to show man that some things are beyond reason,” is how Blaise Pascal put it. Something would not require faith if the proof of it was absolute. According to Philip Yancey, the author of “The Jesus I Never Knew,” “Faith requires the possibility of rejection, or it is not faith.”

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There’s one other difference between faith and reason. The latter can analyze things like quantum physics and modern cosmology. But what faith can do is to put our lives in an unfolding narrative in ways reason cannot. It gives us a role in a gripping drama, of which the Christmas story is one defining scene. It’s a drama that includes sin and betrayal, redemption and grace; and ultimately it gives purpose to our lives despite the brokenness and pain we experience. This may mean nothing to you, but to people of faith, it can mean everything. If God is real, perhaps it should.

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Read it all at: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/25/opinion/faith-christmas-religion.html

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The theist canard of atheist equivalency. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #1
What if you change the proposition? SwissTony Dec 2017 #20
Keep your faith to yourself, if that is not possible then let your faith do good Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #2
doubt is not the opposite of faith. reality is the opposite of faith. faith is msongs Dec 2017 #3
yup Skittles Dec 2017 #5
Faith and Gullibility Cartoonist Dec 2017 #4
"To say that truth is only intelligible through reason is itself a statement of faith." Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2017 #6
And the predictable attacks begin... TreasonousBastard Dec 2017 #7
So faith is like psychotic rage? Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #8
Don't be silly. Humans are imperfect, whether using using logic or emotion... TreasonousBastard Dec 2017 #9
You made a specific claim about religious faith. Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #10
It could be, but maybe read the article first... TreasonousBastard Dec 2017 #11
So that would be a no to defending the Voltaire2 Dec 2017 #13
"Atheists badz"? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #29
If we are talking about things that exist without evidence marylandblue Dec 2017 #18
The article rests on a blurring of different types of faith marylandblue Dec 2017 #14
thank you edhopper Dec 2017 #15
No, it doesn't. It speaks more of a continuum. Since before Aristotle there has been discussion... TreasonousBastard Dec 2017 #16
The entire article is about faith, it's even right there in the title marylandblue Dec 2017 #17
You are saying the only form of faith is religious? I am saying it is all a continuum... TreasonousBastard Dec 2017 #19
I have no problem with stories about unicorns marylandblue Dec 2017 #21
Religious faith may be a small part of emotions, but they claim a huge part of society muriel_volestrangler Dec 2017 #31
That is overly harsh, and says religion has no redeeming virtue and is responsible for... TreasonousBastard Dec 2017 #32
Many atheists, like myself, also have faith. MineralMan Dec 2017 #12
Better in what way, exactly? MineralMan Dec 2017 #22
We choose to give meaning and purpose to our lives. yallerdawg Dec 2017 #23
Doubt is not the antonym for Faith. MineralMan Dec 2017 #24
Antonyms of faith: yallerdawg Dec 2017 #25
Yeah, well, someone made that list. MineralMan Dec 2017 #26
Some will take exception to this: guillaumeb Dec 2017 #27
A standard of "proof" and "evidence" seems to be... yallerdawg Dec 2017 #28
Other than the existence of God, marylandblue Dec 2017 #30
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