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MineralMan

(146,350 posts) Fri Mar 29, 2019, 09:59 AM Mar 2019

Jumping on the Whataboutism Bandwagon [View all]

So, what about all these threads on whataboutism? What's that about?

And what about all the whataboutism in China? I mean really? Excuses and diversionary tactics, redux.

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Jumping on the Whataboutism Bandwagon [View all] MineralMan Mar 2019 OP

Consistent with a pattern. trotsky Mar 2019 #1

Misframing. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #4

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #7

Thanks for that wonderful explanation. trotsky Mar 2019 #10

And when called on the whataboutism the next tactic is gaslighting Major Nikon Mar 2019 #9

Someone is working overtime to gaslight everyone into believing their fallacy isn't a fallacy Major Nikon Mar 2019 #2

Misframing. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #5

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #6

I've solved that problem for my part... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #16

I don't really see it as a problem Major Nikon Mar 2019 #17

It's more like an ear-worm to me... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #18

This should do it Major Nikon Mar 2019 #20

Ouch... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #21

It is very basic. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #3

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #8

lol tymorial Apr 2019 #76

Again? And Again? And Again? MineralMan Mar 2019 #11

Please explain why simplicable.com is a better source on this than Merriam Webster. trotsky Mar 2019 #12

I know! I know! MineralMan Mar 2019 #14

Gladly: guillaumeb Mar 2019 #26

Huh? trotsky Apr 2019 #27

Amazing? Definitely. eom guillaumeb Apr 2019 #29

And nobody said you denied guilt. marylandblue Apr 2019 #30

Your claim about my supposed position lacks something. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #31

I can't show you what isn't there. marylandblue Apr 2019 #32

Sexual abuse is criminal behavior. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #33

Evidence for which assertion? The one you didn't answer before? marylandblue Apr 2019 #34

Again, that depends on a number of factors. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #40

Again, you're not answering the question. trotsky Apr 2019 #41

You have an agenda. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #46

Tu Quoque? MineralMan Apr 2019 #47

Observation. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #49

I see. Again and again, I see... MineralMan Apr 2019 #53

Actually studying the issue is so much harder than making an assertion. Correct? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #55

Still no answer. MineralMan Apr 2019 #57

No, not the answer you prefer. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #58

ONCE AGAIN trotsky Apr 2019 #70

"No puppet. No puppet. You're the puppet." trotsky Apr 2019 #48

Yes, it is. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #50

I'm glad you can admit your response was pathetic. trotsky Apr 2019 #51

Question? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #52

No it wasn't. trotsky Apr 2019 #54

Certainly. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #56

Still no answer. trotsky Apr 2019 #59

I have not seen enough actual information to answer. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #60

Then that would be a "no" answer. trotsky Apr 2019 #61

Did you read my response? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #62

You mean your evasion? Yes, I read it. trotsky Apr 2019 #63

Provide a comparison to justify the assertion. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #64

Just did. trotsky Apr 2019 #65

Make an appointment with an optometrist. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #66

You're the one who said you couldn't see something. trotsky Apr 2019 #67

The optometrist might be able to help you find those assertions that you made about my posts. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #68

Now you're mixing up your threads. trotsky Apr 2019 #69

Actually, it was a question, because your answer is unknown marylandblue Apr 2019 #72

At least you mentioned some specifics marylandblue Apr 2019 #71

As I have pointed out in previous posts, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #73

So your answer is "no?" marylandblue Apr 2019 #74

My answer is still that, lacking specific statistical information, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #75

You said there were many factors. marylandblue Apr 2019 #77

But, the scale and scope of the RCC's scandal is hugely larger. MineralMan Apr 2019 #78

Yes, it seems larger. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #81

Irrelevant MineralMan Apr 2019 #82

The point. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #83

Still irrelevant. MineralMan Apr 2019 #84

A large scandal in a large organization is much worse than in a small organization marylandblue Apr 2019 #85

Yes, it is worse in that way. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #86

No. The human "family" is not a family and is not an organization marylandblue Apr 2019 #87

All human organizations are comprised of? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #88

Can we get off this logical contradiction already. marylandblue Apr 2019 #89

What about when an organization has its own power structure and "legal system"... trotsky Apr 2019 #93

It makes those who shielded the abusers complicit. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #95

But it suggests, perhaps, that an organization should not be allowed to have such a structure. marylandblue Apr 2019 #96

Many have taken steps. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #97

In time? Many places have had these measures for decades. marylandblue Apr 2019 #98

According to some we can't even take the steps that are already working with other organizations Major Nikon Apr 2019 #99

Which makes the scandal worse. trotsky Apr 2019 #100

Yeah, just be sure not to hit your kids in the face while beating them Major Nikon Apr 2019 #94

Global coverups Lordquinton Apr 2019 #91

You are attempting to re-frame and distract. trotsky Apr 2019 #92

You're doing it again. trotsky Apr 2019 #35

But whutabout Chinese atheists? Major Nikon Apr 2019 #36

How long does he get to play this damn game while trying to pretend he's the real victim? trotsky Apr 2019 #37

Until everyone here puts him on ignore Major Nikon Apr 2019 #38

On the other hand, I think he's here less and less often. MineralMan Apr 2019 #39

His XX/XY sexist/transphobic thread was pretty bad. trotsky Apr 2019 #42

Well it certainly demonstrated that he doesn't understand genetics. MineralMan Apr 2019 #43

That's just it, there has been no growth, no learning, nothing. trotsky Apr 2019 #44

Well, there it is, I guess. MineralMan Apr 2019 #45

Kinda shocking you'd get even one Major Nikon Apr 2019 #90

He's good at it, that's for sure. Mariana Apr 2019 #80

Without having seen all the posts in question, I've got a working assumption: Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #13

Congratulations, you do not need to read the posts in question. trotsky Mar 2019 #15

My hat's off to those of you who suffer through trying to correct the irredeemable. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #25

Ha, there is no correction possible. He's made that quite clear. trotsky Apr 2019 #28

It's so bad, WEC is... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #19

Some people build castles in the sky. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #23

Eventually, it must come to this: MineralMan Mar 2019 #22

Let's look at the good news, though Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #24

I always thought Whataboutism was a pivot in a conversation so you don't answer the question mitch96 Apr 2019 #79

A beam, a mote, an eye and the confused I sanatanadharma Apr 2019 #101

I get it, but this mostly does not compute in Western philosophy. marylandblue Apr 2019 #102

Kick... NeoGreen Jun 2019 #103

:shrug: As Expected. MineralMan Jun 2019 #104

Well, when a current thread is the subject of numerous examples, guillaumeb Jun 2019 #105

Whatabout the whataboutist poster? Major Nikon Jun 2019 #106