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slightlv

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22. As a seeker, these are not unique to this religion I've found.
Sun Feb 18, 2024, 03:24 PM
Feb 18

Most of what we'd call good is actually good social engineering. Something societies have to have evidently in order to be civilized. Most of the Bible is created from religious and mythical stories of other religions... put ithem together and blend for a new religion of the time.

Frankly, at some point I expect to see Star Wars and Star Trek blended into a religion. We already have one with characteristics from stranger on a strange land. And what is Dune but one hell of a mythic god story.

I guess count me in that group of those wondering why the emphasis on physicality. One can be worshipped without ever being real... as long as something is done to positively impact society.

The gods need us as we need the gods... because, as the gods supposedly created us, we created the gods. My belief system ain't for everyone and that's ok. I've just been a seeker after truth for 68 years.

There was no Jesus [View all] Celerity Feb 18 OP
k&r nt flying rabbit Feb 18 #1
At this point, does it matter? Ocelot II Feb 18 #2
Everything matters - or ... dchill Feb 18 #3
It only matters as an objective response to the Mike Johnsons of the world... Thunderbeast Feb 18 #7
Bookmarking True Dough Feb 18 #4
Good read. Fascinating analysis of the analysts. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 18 #5
I think this is the earliest form of good marketing...nt mitch96 Feb 18 #6
I think a lot of liberal Christians harumph Feb 18 #8
I'll go with the Harry Potter analogy. Voltaire2 Feb 18 #10
I take a more charitable view - but I'm not a literalist... harumph Feb 18 #11
Using Flavius Josephus as a reference is a mistake Christians often make Doc Sportello Feb 18 #34
And one of the references is now generally Voltaire2 Feb 19 #63
Is that 'Christian', though? pandr32 Feb 18 #55
Yeah but the vast majority of biblical historians, Voltaire2 Feb 18 #9
Ok, did Siddhartha Gautama actually exist do you think? harumph Feb 18 #12
I have no idea, and no. Voltaire2 Feb 18 #15
The historical record is routinely altered. colorado_ufo Feb 18 #14
The Roman Empire was generally tolerant Voltaire2 Feb 18 #18
Interesting and informative. colorado_ufo Feb 18 #28
But wasn't that how "Christianity" began.... Think. Again. Feb 18 #52
Not sure about that. colorado_ufo Feb 18 #59
To me, that seems to be the most logical conclusion... Think. Again. Feb 18 #60
I think he is a composite character Mr.Bill Feb 18 #13
And here's a composite drawing to go with that composite character: True Dough Feb 18 #30
And another image based on forensic science True Dough Feb 18 #32
Orange Jesus is real. twodogsbarking Feb 18 #16
And yet, ideas attributed to him survived 2,000 years. surfered Feb 18 #17
As a seeker, these are not unique to this religion I've found. slightlv Feb 18 #22
These aren't necessarily him either angrychair Feb 18 #26
The "Golden Rule" exists in all the major religious and spiritual traditions, Ocelot II Feb 18 #29
You sure those weren't stolen True Dough Feb 18 #35
About the beatitudes Voltaire2 Feb 18 #36
Attributed incorrectly. SarahD Feb 18 #41
But those are basic 'good' human traits that go all the way back, way before the Jesus thing, aren't they? Think. Again. Feb 18 #53
👇👇👇👁️👁️ Goonch Feb 18 #19
Kicking. MontanaMama Feb 18 #20
"The Christian theory is little else than anciano Feb 18 #21
I said something similar above, slightlv Feb 18 #24
Imo, a person that came to be called Yeshua lonely bird Feb 18 #23
I even asked my sister slightlv Feb 18 #25
The repetition of ancient themes in christian myth orthoclad Feb 18 #27
Jesus died again yesterday in Navalny's death Ponietz Feb 18 #31
Thank you! pazzyanne Feb 18 #38
The greatest lesson of the Bible - don't fuck with the men who has the money and the power Probatim Feb 18 #56
Our calendar is all wrong then? pwb Feb 18 #33
Just for the record, pazzyanne Feb 18 #37
Just for the record, this forum is open Voltaire2 Feb 19 #64
Just for the record - pazzyanne Feb 19 #65
Your opinion is welcome. Voltaire2 Feb 19 #66
Thank you, Voltaire2. pazzyanne Feb 19 #67
Well twodogsbarking Feb 18 #39
I cite, for example..... Shoonra Feb 18 #40
No shooting an apple? No killing Gessler? SarahD Feb 18 #43
A lot of earlier religions preached the same story. Emile Feb 18 #42
Thought this theory was interesting & logical: Roman Emperors Invented Christianity Attilatheblond Feb 18 #44
One bit of evidence that Jesus did exist thucythucy Feb 18 #45
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Qutzupalotl Feb 18 #46
It actually is evidence edhopper Feb 18 #48
There was a revolution some years after his death Warpy Feb 18 #47
I had heard that Christianity edhopper Feb 18 #49
Washn't he dead by this time? Warpy Feb 18 #57
Not Mark the Apostle edhopper Feb 18 #58
An interesting observation edhopper Feb 18 #50
Look up Jim Palmer AwakeAtLast Feb 18 #51
I'm just getting started studying what I agree is the evolution of religion. I watched a lot of Bart Ehrman on his brewens Feb 18 #54
Very peculiar presentation of this statistic: Qutzupalotl Feb 18 #61
I like omnipotent beings that get it right the first time. czarjak Feb 19 #62
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