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cbayer

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38. And a lovely new year to you as well.

Fri Dec 30, 2011, 03:11 PM

Dec 2011

FWIW, I am part of no cadre here (except possibly with my father, who I adore). And I do love to be questioned when the questioner is honestly interested in the response and not just waiting for a "gotcha".

I look forward to engaging with you in 2012. We don't need vinegar to do that, I hope.

(I would put that wavey thing here, but I won't out of respect for your deep hatred of smilies!).

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List of religion's tangible accomplishments and advances for humanity [View all] Eliminator Dec 2011 OP

I see your 1 and advance you a minus one. Total score: MarkCharles Dec 2011 #1

Good luck with this list. I asked for the same a few weeks ago, and got two things; Jack and Shit. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #2

What would a world without religion have looked like? rrneck Dec 2011 #3

How did we get rid of burning people at the stake? MarkCharles Dec 2011 #4

We didn't supress all the stuff you mentioned rrneck Dec 2011 #7

Probably like this Eliminator Dec 2011 #5

So rrneck Dec 2011 #8

Our collective outrage at The Last Airbender movie. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #9

Okay, that would do it. rrneck Dec 2011 #10

I think it would look almost the same as our world Taverner Dec 2011 #13

Michelangelo would STILL have been one of the greatest artists of all time. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #14

But we never would have known who he was Taverner Dec 2011 #32

Perhaps, but will never know for sure. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #50

Not necessarily. rrneck Dec 2011 #39

Right. Unfortunately, we wouldn't have heard of him Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #56

You cannot know that. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #64

Of course not, but most likely he would have been unknown Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #66

You should see this... cleanhippie Dec 2011 #15

I'm familiar with it. rrneck Dec 2011 #21

Where would women have fit in? deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #23

Where would women have fit in? rrneck Dec 2011 #46

Your second paragraph would be more compelling if human pair bonding was always Leontius Dec 2011 #53

Well it is just a message board post. rrneck Dec 2011 #58

After reading this post and a more careful rereading of the other post Leontius Dec 2011 #60

No worries. Good talking to you. rrneck Dec 2011 #61

Sure, and then moved past it. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #51

"Moved past" might not be the right phrase. rrneck Dec 2011 #54

Your appeals to emotion, while powerful, prove nothing. cleanhippie Dec 2011 #65

Well actually rrneck Dec 2011 #68

Deus ex Machina! tama Dec 2011 #69

Well said. Right on the money. Starboard Tack Dec 2011 #57

Thanks. rrneck Dec 2011 #59

Nice tama Dec 2011 #43

No need to mention Leontius Dec 2011 #67

like this... deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #18

Meditation and other religious, mind-altering practices. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #6

I disagree (with that post, not the other one, screw M. Night!) deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #12

Meditation was invented by Hindus for religious purposes. ZombieHorde Dec 2011 #47

how strange... deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #11

how strange.... cbayer Dec 2011 #16

you'll forgive me (I think you have to) deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #17

You make the mistake of conflating those that have used religion cbayer Dec 2011 #19

used religion to liberate and embrace? deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #20

So often believers can't grasp a simple concept "you don't need religion to do it, you never didyo" MarkCharles Dec 2011 #22

That's because, as you have so often pointed out, believers are really intellectually cbayer Dec 2011 #24

speaking of which deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #26

The American Civil Rights Movement for African Americans cbayer Dec 2011 #28

am I to understand that was brought to us by religion? n/t deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #29

Are you going to deny the role that religion and religious institutions played cbayer Dec 2011 #30

I didn't elaborate very well deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #36

And a lovely new year to you as well. cbayer Dec 2011 #38

Are you going to deny the role that socialists and communists institutions played mr blur Dec 2011 #62

Absolutely not. There were many parties involved. cbayer Dec 2011 #63

Agreed. That's one. Eliminator Dec 2011 #33

I agree. cbayer Dec 2011 #35

Silly me I thought the major impetus of the african slave trade was money and power . Leontius Dec 2011 #55

All people are equal, that's a simple concept, too! MarkCharles Dec 2011 #31

Do those simple people fall into any groups? Because, unless I read this cbayer Dec 2011 #34

"The only people who I can imagine would be offended by a nativity scene that included gay.......... MarkCharles Dec 2011 #40

Exactly right. Homophobic bigots. cbayer Dec 2011 #41

Evidently the idea of belief in Christ or a god had no effect MarkCharles Dec 2011 #48

Is any of this getting through?? Did you really just say that? cbayer Dec 2011 #49

Of course, anyone could (and should) work for social justice. cbayer Dec 2011 #25

I accept your apology deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #27

Anyone could oppress, murder and enslave certain groups, you don't need religion to do it, Leontius Dec 2011 #37

Because I'm staying on topic deacon_sephiroth Dec 2011 #42

In the former thread tama Dec 2011 #44

There might have been confusion about the modern meaning of those terms as MarkCharles Dec 2011 #45

I explained tama Dec 2011 #52