What is REALLY trying (Reply #5) - Democratic Underground

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Tue Apr 2, 2013, 09:16 AM

5. What is REALLY trying

Is those Islamophobes who claim that there is nothing good whatsoever in Islam, who pretend that Muslim extremists are the Muslim mainstream.

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44 replies	Author	Time	Post
Juan Cole: Dear Rightwing Catholic Islamophobes [View all]	eridani	Apr 2013	OP
"Claim" to be Catholics?	trotsky	Apr 2013	#1
"Cafeteria Catholic" means Catholics who pick and choose among Catholic teachings	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#4
"torture is malum in se -- evil in and of itself"	trotsky	Apr 2013	#6
I would say that you have a basic misunderstanding of Hell and how one goes there	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#7
Ah, the old "people choose to go to hell" defense.	trotsky	Apr 2013	#8
No, my answer to your question is that you don't really understand	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#14
There's nothing reasonable about your answer, because it's a cop-out.	trotsky	Apr 2013	#15
No, it is not a cop-out, unlike your blowing off my response	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#16
How can that be a valid comparison at all?	trotsky	Apr 2013	#17
Oh, I see	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#19
All I want is for you to explain how sending a child to their room...	trotsky	Apr 2013	#20
The objection is	skepticscott	Apr 2013	#30
If a parent	EvolveOrConvolve	Apr 2013	#23
Wow, this is just a bona fide evil being that you worship.	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2013	#25
Another person who wants to do whatever he wants without consequences	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#29
That argument has been shot to pieces already	skepticscott	Apr 2013	#31
I don't need a cosmic dictator to obey to behave morally...	Humanist_Activist	Apr 2013	#36
Wow, you just have no answers for anything, do you?	skepticscott	Apr 2013	#38
All Christians are Cafeteria Christians.	backscatter712	Apr 2013	#11
Well the teachings that came out of Christs mouth were be nice.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#32
what about the so-called 'old testament' and pentatuech?	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#39
That is very true that parts of the bible would not be considered moral by todays standard.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#41
still.. which bible?	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#42
I don't see the bible as a terrible book.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#43
The article does not state they "claim" to be Catholics.	rug	Apr 2013	#9
What is really tiring	pipoman	Apr 2013	#2
What is REALLY trying	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#5
along with	pipoman	Apr 2013	#24
+100	demosincebirth	Apr 2013	#26
So, anyone who "claims" to be a Catholic isn't really one?	mr blur	Apr 2013	#3
James Joyce defined Catholicism as	Fortinbras Armstrong	Apr 2013	#10
I think he makes the distinction very eloquently and it is an important one to make.	cbayer	Apr 2013	#12
Should liberal Catholics have their behavior contrasted with that of the new pope as well?	trotsky	Apr 2013	#13
You won't get an answer. That's a gotcha question.	cleanhippie	Apr 2013	#18
You and I know it very well.	trotsky	Apr 2013	#21
i'm paying attention..	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#22
I would say most liberal Roman Catholics don't worry if they don't obey the pope on something.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#33
The point is, conservative Catholics don't worry either.	trotsky	Apr 2013	#35
We all fall short.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#37
Did anybody else catch this line?	Lordquinton	Apr 2013	#27
Fascism as defined by Mussolini (who ought to know) is	eridani	Apr 2013	#28
I noticed it as well.	hrmjustin	Apr 2013	#34
yes plz. do explain.. \n	Phillip McCleod	Apr 2013	#40
Saying that they can't be facist	Lordquinton	Apr 2013	#44

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