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MellowDem

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69. If you believe indoctrinating children is child abuse...

Wed Apr 24, 2013, 03:55 PM

Apr 2013

then religion does it quite often.

What qualifies as "child abuse" is subjective, but most would see the indoctrination of children in most anything other than religion as a form of it, but religion gets a pass, mainly because of tradition, and because many people view it through a rather slanted worldview in the US.

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Atheist Richard Dawkins: ‘Indoctrination of religion’ is ‘child abuse’ [View all] rug Apr 2013 OP

Finally, some logic Politicalboi Apr 2013 #1

Did you hear his earlier pronuncements that raising a child Catholic is similar to sexual abuse? rug Apr 2013 #4

Put it in context! This girl was told by her priest that her dead friend was burning in Hell. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #7

Ok, I did. rug Apr 2013 #11

For this girl, religious indoctrination literally was worse than sexual fondling. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #12

Sorry about your experience but I won't extrapolate from it. rug Apr 2013 #16

You do know the one calling it "yucky" Goblinmonger Apr 2013 #14

You do know she was writing in the voice of a seven year old, right? rug Apr 2013 #18

That's a reasonable voice and expression for a seven-year-old. Goblinmonger Apr 2013 #22

But not for a 70 year old ideologue. rug Apr 2013 #23

Um uh, what? Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #44

Read the subthread. rug Apr 2013 #47

Frankly, I doubt the whole story. okasha Apr 2013 #49

I went to Catholic school in the 80s. Goblinmonger Apr 2013 #51

Whoever taught you must have been caught in a time warp, okasha Apr 2013 #54

Council of Trent? Goblinmonger Apr 2013 #60

"Too bad Ursulines weren't your instructors--mine were righteously kick-ass ladies." Act_of_Reparation Apr 2013 #63

I think the victim gets to decide Mariana Apr 2013 #17

That's for her to decide not for him to exploit. rug Apr 2013 #19

Did she want him to publish Mariana Apr 2013 #21

That I don't know. rug Apr 2013 #24

But you have no problem insinuating that which you don't know. Warren Stupidity Apr 2013 #45

Do you know> rug Apr 2013 #46

Yes, the person who experienced it skepticscott Apr 2013 #26

I see you haven't read the subthread before responding. rug Apr 2013 #28

How do you think I knew skepticscott Apr 2013 #33

Once more you confuse what you think with what you know. rug Apr 2013 #36

Watch Jesus Camp, and tell me many of those kids aren't abused... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #2

Let's apply social science. rug Apr 2013 #3

I see it in differences of degree, not kind... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #6

That's an important distinction. rug Apr 2013 #8

Do not reference the Movie that shall not be named(TM). Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #13

What is PSR? rug Apr 2013 #20

Parochial School of Religion... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #27

Well, one of the great tragedies of recent decades is poor catechesis. rug Apr 2013 #29

To be honest, if it wasn't for my restless need to read and learn... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #34

You can't have faith without doubt. rug Apr 2013 #35

Of course not, but you struggle against the doubt, and find justifications for your faith... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #37

How can a doubt have a logical conclusion? rug Apr 2013 #39

Doubts can lead to further questions and inquiries that lead to facts, or even the lack of facts... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #40

Star Trek does have an excellent message about omnipotent beings. backscatter712 Apr 2013 #43

H-A You just about frightened me out of my faith! Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #66

Wow! Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #67

The things that most messed me up, were the concept for original sin... Humanist_Activist Apr 2013 #70

Youk bet. That is real child abuse. nt Thats my opinion Apr 2013 #68

This isn't a new claim by Dawkins. longship Apr 2013 #5

I find it more effective to threaten my children with spiders. rug Apr 2013 #9

ROFL. Thx for that one. nt longship Apr 2013 #10

The Magic of Reality by Richard Dawkins – review struggle4progress Apr 2013 #15

This bears repeating: rug Apr 2013 #25

They are. Daemonaquila Apr 2013 #30

They are what? Ignorant or stupid? rug Apr 2013 #32

The whole point of this line of argument okasha Apr 2013 #56

You're painting with a pretty broad brush, aren't you? struggle4progress Apr 2013 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author rug Apr 2013 #31

... 2ndAmForComputers Apr 2013 #41

... rug Apr 2013 #42

Indoctrinating children in anything is child abuse... MellowDem Apr 2013 #48

What do you consider the difference between indoctrination and teaching them your beliefs? rug Apr 2013 #50

It's the difference between indoctrination and education... MellowDem Apr 2013 #52

The righteousness of your indignation depends then on the accuracy of your observation. rug Apr 2013 #53

Why is it overstated? nt MellowDem Apr 2013 #55

Because it's not accurate and exaggerated. rug Apr 2013 #59

What anecdotes or cherry-picking did I provide? MellowDem Apr 2013 #62

You posted nothing in particular. rug Apr 2013 #64

If you believe indoctrinating children is child abuse... MellowDem Apr 2013 #69

Because rug says so, thats why. cleanhippie Apr 2013 #61

I see. So religious indoctrination is child abuse because you say so. rug Apr 2013 #65

I think the "teaching religion is child abuse" thing goldent Apr 2013 #57

I think LostOne4Ever Apr 2013 #58