Religion
In reply to the discussion: Christianity and atheism are two sides of the same coin [View all]Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)we could go all day with that alone, and that isn't really the focus.
By submission I mean "3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him" (straight from AA.org, from the 12 step guide) and from webster's dictionary "3 : an act of submitting to the authority or control of another" pretty cut and dry there.
also makes it very clear that it is a religious thing.
The thing is that what is often labeled anti theism isn't. Like the removal of "In god we trust" form our money, it's an anti-atheist statement, removing it would be the neutral position, no one is asking to put "in no god we trust" anywhere (well, I'm sure someone is, but we don't talk about them...)
I think there is another confusion here, we're talking anti-atheist/anti-theist when we should be talking anti-theism/anti-atheism the sides are talking about ideas, personal attacks have no business anywhere.