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MellowDem

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8. Nothing to cheer about...

Sun Sep 22, 2013, 08:41 PM

Sep 2013

All he said is that the Church should stop focusing on things that make them unpopular. Whoop dee doo. Why is anyone excited? I guess some people are so invested in their idea of what the church is supposed to be that they'll grab onto anything to pretend it's changing.

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Catholics Cheer Pope's Remarks On Gays, Abortion [View all] Purveyor Sep 2013 OP

I think a lot of catholics are breathing a big sigh of relief about this new pope. cbayer Sep 2013 #1

A Pope who's a cafeteria Catholic? longship Sep 2013 #2

I read a comment recently (can't remember where) that essentially said: cbayer Sep 2013 #3

As long as it isn't an automat. longship Sep 2013 #4

I remember my first visit to the automat in NYC. cbayer Sep 2013 #5

PR move. xfundy Sep 2013 #6

Of course all of these sheep skepticscott Sep 2013 #7

Sheep? Now is that a criticm of the tenets of Catholicism or of Catholics? rug Sep 2013 #9

It is a criticism of and reference to anyone skepticscott Sep 2013 #10

I know what gullible is. The question is who you are calling gullible. rug Sep 2013 #11

As in a 'flock' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #13

The Bible also addresses asses. rug Sep 2013 #18

But doesn't regard religious followers as asses muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #19

Lots of words have many meanings. rug Sep 2013 #20

Do you believe that the biblical 'pious' sense refers to independent, non-gullible sheep? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #21

It can, objectively. rug Sep 2013 #24

'Objectively'? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #28

A word can objectively have several meanings. rug Sep 2013 #29

Explain the metaphorical meaning of sheep that is 'independent' or 'non-gullible' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #30

You'll have to ask Eric Idle that. rug Sep 2013 #33

So you're going to take an absurd comedy sketch as providing an 'objective' meaning? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #34

Not at all. Do you dispute that words have objective meaning? rug Sep 2013 #35

If you want to show that your interpretation of the meaning of 'sheep' in the bible is 'objective' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #37

I don't have eight pounds. rug Sep 2013 #38

You see, I tried to tell you why 'sheep' is a valid term to use with Christians muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #39

When did being a sheep become a negative, anyway. cbayer Sep 2013 #22

The parable of the lost sheep? Psalm 23? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #23

For a believer, I don't think that would be a negative.... cbayer Sep 2013 #25

The Jesus story reflects the culture of its time. I think they cast Jesus as one of the sheep, pinto Sep 2013 #27

Nothing to cheer about... MellowDem Sep 2013 #8

His remarks on abortion were "it's always wrong" muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #12

I don't think the pope can singlehandedly change dogma, but he can change tone. cbayer Sep 2013 #14

But I wonder why a change in PR direction is held to be so important (nt) muriel_volestrangler Sep 2013 #15

Well, I would say because, like it or not, the pope and the RCC are in positions of influence. cbayer Sep 2013 #16

Talking about it and doing it are two different things. n/t trotsky Sep 2013 #17

It's all smoke-and-mirrors PR from the Vatican. Arugula Latte Sep 2013 #26

While the new pope is out there putting a kinder face on the church's bigotry and intolerance... trotsky Sep 2013 #31

As does the fawning praise and the apologetics skepticscott Sep 2013 #32

Lol! rug Sep 2013 #36