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Tumbulu

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11. gluten is a conjugate of two proteins
Mon Feb 6, 2012, 12:57 AM
Feb 2012

Gluten is the composite of a gliadin and a glutelin, which is conjoined with starch in the endosperm of various grass-related grains.

It is the structure of the proteins that make up the gluten in some of the oldest varieties that appears to be different.

Gluten simply describes the composite and not the actual structures or forms of the gliadin and glutelin.

It seems that these two proteins can have different shapes. These can be distinguished by gel electrophoresis. It seems that modern wheat breeders have selected for the forms of gliadin and or glutelin that make the strongest glutens. The older varieties have proteins that form a gluten structure, but those proteins are not the same- looking at gels of the proteins one can see the differences.

In the old spelts and in this Sonora wheat the proteins have one gel profile. In the modern wheats and in the modern spelts those proteins have another profile. Gel profiles are sort of like fingerprints of a protein.

And so this is my theory of why so many people who cannot tolerate regular wheat can enjoy this wheat, it has different proteins making this conjugate called gluten up.

I have no other theories of why the people that I know who cannot eat wheat for various reasons can eat this old variety. And dixiegrrrl this is only my observation- there have been no studies about this- heck there is hardly any of this wheat around- you have to know one of the farmers personally to even get it. And who has any money to run studies? But my guess is that something has happened to modern wheats- how is it that so many people are now gluten intolerant? Isn't it possible that something about the gluten has changed?

Tumbulu Howler Feb 2012 #1
Thank you! Tumbulu Feb 2012 #2
I love hearing about your farm and all your animals Tumbulu. Howler Feb 2012 #3
Oh, that is so lovely! OneGrassRoot Feb 2012 #8
Thank you so much! Tumbulu Feb 2012 #9
May I pass this on to my healers group and the biodynamic farm group? BanzaiBonnie Feb 2012 #4
Sure, BonzaiBonnie Tumbulu Feb 2012 #10
What a wonderful thing to do! yellerpup Feb 2012 #5
Thanks! Tumbulu Feb 2012 #13
I am wishing the very best dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #6
gluten is a conjugate of two proteins Tumbulu Feb 2012 #11
You are indeed onto something. dixiegrrrrl Feb 2012 #14
Thank you for explaining this Bluestar Feb 2012 #17
I do not think that the farmers large or small Tumbulu Feb 2012 #21
With all due respect Bluestar Feb 2012 #22
Oh my goodness I took no offense and thank you for your kind words of encouragement Tumbulu Feb 2012 #23
Sending my greenthumb energy! kentauros Feb 2012 #7
Thanks Kentaurus Tumbulu Feb 2012 #12
Rodale is a great organization all the way around! kentauros Feb 2012 #15
Thanks for more great finds! Tumbulu Feb 2012 #33
It would be phenomenal to get that much new topsoil :) kentauros Feb 2012 #39
I LOVE Soil Microbiology Tumbulu Feb 2012 #46
If you're not aware of Paul Stamets, kentauros Feb 2012 #50
Good Advice on this thread MagickMuffin Feb 2012 #16
Thanks so much MagickMuffin Tumbulu Feb 2012 #31
If I had the space, I would love to try this heirloom wheat. GardeningGal Feb 2012 #18
Thanks for posting his presentation Tumbulu Feb 2012 #30
What a fantastic pesentation- I am so glad that Tumbulu Feb 2012 #44
Here are some prayers for your awesome sounding golden wheat... BlueIris Feb 2012 #19
I'm keeping your farm in my attention, Tumbulu. bigmonkey Feb 2012 #20
YOU ARE WONDERFUL AND YOU HAVE HELPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tumbulu Feb 2012 #24
WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!! Howler Feb 2012 #25
Hooray!!! bigmonkey Feb 2012 #49
Thanks so much for bringing up Sonora wheat BlueToTheBone Feb 2012 #26
Oh my goodness, that is who buys most of my Sonora wheat every year Tumbulu Feb 2012 #27
before and after ASAH (dial up warning) new amazing picture added Tumbulu Feb 2012 #28
Now that is looking GOOD MagickMuffin Feb 2012 #40
WOO HOO!!! Howler Feb 2012 #41
Sending birthing energy to your seeds. Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #29
Thank you- they are- take a look at the pictures- I am so very grateful Tumbulu Feb 2012 #34
Prayers and green energy vibes on their way to you Tumbulu..... Ecumenist Feb 2012 #32
Oh Ecumenist Tumbulu Feb 2012 #35
Are you in California? We're in a serious drought out here and the date you gave for rain sound Ecumenist Feb 2012 #36
Yes, northern Calif Tumbulu Feb 2012 #37
YES!!! It looks like the western gfoothills!! I'm in Sacramento ... Ecumenist Feb 2012 #38
yes they are- the Capay Valley Tumbulu Feb 2012 #43
Wow!! We were actually looking to buy property there, I believe it was on road 75? I think.. Ecumenist Feb 2012 #47
Thank you so much Ecumenist! That is amazing Tumbulu Feb 2012 #48
Mental imaging here for you: the biggest, burliest 30 acres of wheat ever seen by mankind :) TownDrunk2 Feb 2012 #42
Thank you! Tumbulu Feb 2012 #45
I love what you are doing, Tumbulu magical thyme Feb 2012 #51
Thank you magical thyme Tumbulu Feb 2012 #52
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