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IrishAyes

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24. As I've often said,
Sat Mar 16, 2013, 08:22 PM
Mar 2013

... there's real obedience and then the other kind. Moving around so much and now being so old to boot, I've seen a lot of surface obedience that's still openly subversive. So it doesn't do the hierarchy much good, really. Any priest worth his salt can find plenty of ways to be defiant.

Once I knew well a particular Claretian who had been made head of an extremely wealthy large parish much to his dismay. After a few years of protesting, he secured a transfer to a small and very poor outlying parish. When they ran out of supplies, which was often the case, he followed St. Francis' example by marching back to the rich parish and liberating whatever he felt the poor one needed. They threatened him with church censure and even said they'd call the sheriff if he kept on. But he did anyway. He always left a note describing what he'd appropriated, but they knew if they sent him a bill he'd never pay it on principle as well as need. So when HE decided what needed doing, everybody might as well step back and clear the way, because here he came! I can safely expect he likes our new Pope.

Generally moderate but, like most organizations, it depends on the topic. rug Jun 2012 #1
From the pulpit - nonexistent tjwmason Jun 2012 #2
My parish is center-left. demosincebirth Jun 2012 #3
Conservative, but not aggressively so. n/t. apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #4
Progressive all the way LeftTurnOnly Jun 2012 #5
That's great IrishAyes Mar 2013 #22
It almost amuses me Advocatus-Diaboli Jul 2012 #6
It's mostly moderate. musical_soul Jul 2012 #7
Controversial? IrishAyes Mar 2013 #23
Many decent rank-and-file priests here (Diocese of Pitt.) Mc Mike Aug 2012 #8
Obedience No Vested Interest Oct 2012 #11
A simple yahoo search 'Catholic Priests Vow of Obedience' will provide some edification. Mc Mike Nov 2012 #14
As I've often said, IrishAyes Mar 2013 #24
Good low level clergy shouldn't have to fight against the hierarchy Mc Mike Mar 2013 #26
Agreed IrishAyes Mar 2013 #27
Sure. But I trust Penny Lernoux's coverage. No text. Mc Mike Mar 2013 #28
I can't tell shenmue Aug 2012 #9
"...but he talks a lot about the soldiers and military". I don't understand the "but". Pterodactyl Aug 2012 #10
Nit-Pick FreedomFighter98201 Nov 2012 #12
War is never good, but we should support our military in war and in peace. Pterodactyl Nov 2012 #17
I waivered between moderate and progressive. hunter Nov 2012 #13
I'm Orthodox (OCA) Don Draper Nov 2012 #15
In our OCA congregation, converts aren't mostly 'non-denominational' or evangelical. mojowork_n Nov 2012 #16
Very interesting thoughts beerandjesus Mar 2016 #40
Mostly moderate or Democrat AProgressiveThinker Jan 2013 #18
My parish is moderately progressive. ColesCountyDem Feb 2013 #19
Fairly progressive TommyCelt Mar 2013 #20
And you're badly needed IrishAyes Mar 2013 #25
Sounds like a good one IrishAyes Mar 2013 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #32
Been away awhile or I would've responded sooner. IrishAyes Dec 2014 #33
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Thanks for the tip. IrishAyes Dec 2014 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #36
Are you following Sinn Fein on FB? (sorry, DU) IrishAyes Dec 2014 #37
I'll PM Sweeney so as not to get too political in this group. IrishAyes Dec 2014 #38
Conservative... blue_roses_lib Apr 2013 #29
Talk is Cheap Lefty Nast Jun 2013 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Sweeney Dec 2014 #31
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Greek Orthodox here k8conant May 2016 #41
Moderate to right leaning Andrew73 Jul 2016 #42
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #43
Probably conservative Willie Pep Feb 2018 #44
Social justice oriented Christopher-81 Jan 2019 #45
In my tiny Orthodox parish VA_Jill Feb 2021 #46
I'm Orthodox Onama Biden Man Aug 2022 #47
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