A Minor Problem For Sound Science of the Effect of Offshore Windfarms on Seabirds: There Isn't Any.

[Eko]

18. Yes you have said that many times.

There's nothing clean about gas. Using it as fuel, at any rate, only adds to carbon dioxide and methane in the atmosphere.
Why do you bring this up? I never said it was clean or a good thing at all.
I think your giant windmills are ugly ineffective bling on the natural gas industry, like some garish $100 protective cover on a brand new iPhone. That's not progress.
If we didn't have them we would just be using more natural gas, is that better?
Unlike NNadir, I've no hostility toward neighbors who install solar panels on their roofs -- they are probably powering my 20 watt internet ramblings whenever the sun shines.

Probably? You don't know? Where are you getting your energy from?
The only way out of this hole we've dug is to reverse human population growth and that can only be accomplished by education and birth control, starting with the people who are the most active participants in the high energy consumer economy.
Well, that sounds really good. I believe we need to do that for quite a few reasons. But while we are trying to get our own country to do that (we are down from 2% in the 60's to 1.17% now) how are we going to get other countries to do that in enough time? Also, realize we are the highest energy users in the world. It is the reason our standard of living is so high. How are we going to get other countries to have a lower energy usage per person than us and accept a lower standard of living? By force?
If monster windmills are economically justified in our consumer economy, that's probably a bad thing.

I'm not buying what you are selling.

Windmills dont enable natural gas, without windmills we would just use more natural gas. Windmills decrease the use of natural gas. Its that simple.