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In reply to the discussion: Imagine if our civil rights champions had the same disdain for pragmatism as some BS supporters have [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)3. I'd rather discuss candidates, speaking of equal rights yours adamantly opposed them:
That's just one of the reasons I don't support her but it's the biggest.
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Imagine if our civil rights champions had the same disdain for pragmatism as some BS supporters have [View all]
Empowerer
Jan 2016
OP
It's really a shame that people like you who are so quick to "stand with" the civil rights movement
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#12
If you were really there, you weren't paying any attention - anyone who was really there AND paying
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#84
I read these for entertainment. Of no value...just like keeping up. No ignores for me.
libdem4life
Jan 2016
#105
Counselor. You are arguing facts not in evidence, and well beyond the present case ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#157
I'd rather discuss candidates, speaking of equal rights yours adamantly opposed them:
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#3
He's on tape saying marriage is a "sacred" bond between a man and a woman?
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#28
No he didn't, when did he say marriage was "sacred" and only between a man and a woman?
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#64
No, it isn't. I don't put words in Hillary's mouth because I don't have to.
beam me up scottie
Jan 2016
#122
The problem with comments like this is that it reveals a cramped and narrow understanding of the
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#17
Your problem is that you think the civil rights movement consisted of marches
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#22
I appreciate your bringing up Charles Hamilton Houston, who apparently laid much legal groundwork
99th_Monkey
Jan 2016
#60
You don't see incrementalism in a 20-year effort to gradually dismantle the Separate but Equal
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#77
I can only imagine that fighting racial injustice from 1929 - 1950 would require 'incrementalism'
99th_Monkey
Jan 2016
#173
You're right but it wasn't just to avoid personal danger - there was a bigger strategy there
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#174
The Pragmatists have had half a century... how much more fucking time do they need?
SMC22307
Jan 2016
#153
50 years after the Civil Rights Movember, we still have racial discrimination in this country,
FrenchieCat
Jan 2016
#155
Exactly. I like Sanders' dreams, but they are just that in today's environment. I'm for progress
Hoyt
Jan 2016
#23
Pragmatism as a goal is for cowards. Champions push the envelope of change.
AtomicKitten
Jan 2016
#65
The disdain BS supporters expressed was with specific reference to healthcare
AtomicKitten
Jan 2016
#156
The entire civil rights movement was based on a "piecemeal series of small steps"
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#38
Hmmm... sounds like a certain portion of DU circa 2008 regarding LGBT rights. n/t
demmiblue
Jan 2016
#31
Allowing Wall Street to control the Agenda is not pragmatic, it's submission. Fuck that shit!
JRLeft
Jan 2016
#24
Thank-you! How many are aware that JFK wanted to concentrate on the Cold War,
hedgehog
Jan 2016
#166
I'm not talking about what MLK SAID (in cherry-picked quotes). I'm talking about what he DID
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#69
The last time I engaged in a conversation with anyone who said "I dare ya," I was about 7 years old
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#96
"All or nothing, right effing now!" Wow, as a slogan of societal change it really sounds....
Hekate
Jan 2016
#66
We should enjoy the scatology directed at a hardworking lifelong Democrat and her supporters?
Hekate
Jan 2016
#73
Here's what I believe about money in US politics: once Citizens United was passed we were screwed...
Hekate
Jan 2016
#136
What is the goal of civil rights champions, but to bring in new leadership?
MrMickeysMom
Jan 2016
#72
Yes, it was a bold move by LBJ - but it was the result of DECADES of slow, gradual work by many
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#90
No, they didn't say that. But they also didn't say, "We will defeat segregation NOW"
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#171
Five recs and over a hundred responses. I'd guess this is what the poster had in mind.
libdem4life
Jan 2016
#106
Well that certainly clears things up. BTW...you provide little but argument.
libdem4life
Jan 2016
#116
That's what I'm learning to do...at some point it enters the Ridiculous Zone of Who Gives a Sht
libdem4life
Jan 2016
#121
I don't argue that we should certainly demand what we want...whether it be Single payer...
FrenchieCat
Jan 2016
#119
Before reading any of the comments, I must say, as a student of history ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jan 2016
#127
If that had been the Democratic strategy all these years, a lot of us could accept it
Armstead
Jan 2016
#133
So Democrats HAVEN'T been doing what you indicated? At least from the perspective of most Democrats
1StrongBlackMan
Feb 2016
#201
I read where people have latched onto the "No we can't" narrative; when ...
1StrongBlackMan
Feb 2016
#197
It's not surprising that the only aspects of the civil rights movement of which you seem to be aware
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#170
MLK's dream of civil is still being worked on. Yes, progress is incremental.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Jan 2016
#165
Interesting that many of the same folk who wrongly insist that our civil rights heroes never took
Empowerer
Jan 2016
#167
"Disdain for pragmatism" - Strawman much??? Bernie Sanders supporters dont
KingCharlemagne
Feb 2016
#178
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a bold, contreversial break with the half measures of 1957 and 1960
DemocraticWing
Feb 2016
#185
Pragmatism got us 100 years of status quo racism from the Civil War to Civil Rights.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#187
Yeah, but this thread isn't really so much about civil rights, is it? More about Hillary Clinton.
Warren DeMontague
Feb 2016
#206
I liked you better when you were posting authentic frontier gibberish from that reparations guy
tularetom
Feb 2016
#205
They're only "pragmatists" when it comes to racial justice. They're pragmatists when it comes to
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2016
#207
And it's bullshit that you're implying that Bernie ever dissed the freedom movement.
Ken Burch
Feb 2016
#223
Didn't Thurgood Marshall have to be convinced to pursue what became Brown versus Board of Ed?
aikoaiko
Feb 2016
#226
No - that's not true. I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but that's wrong
Empowerer
Feb 2016
#227