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NanceGreggs

(27,814 posts)
20. THIS is your apology?
Mon Feb 1, 2016, 01:05 AM
Feb 2016

Let’s talk about the fact that you are still not taking responsibility for attributing statements to me I never made, and taking something I DID say – on a completely unrelated topic – and insinuating that I’d made that comment in response in an exchange on a different subject.

"I want to apologize to that person for things I wrote which were hurtful and I want to apologize to DU for losing my temper." Where is your apology for lying about what I said? Where is your apology for attributing statements to me that I never made?

Your contention was that I said “I feel your pain” as a sarcastic response to the fact that I had healthcare (here in Canada) that you do not. You said that I’d “bragged” about that fact. You brought up my deceased husband, and then said: ”I lost a child thanks to the profit hungry insurance companies and hearing someone with single payer tell me that I and mine are not good enough for it stick in my craw.”

When I asked you to provide a link to where I’d said anything remotely like that, you provided a link to where I’d said “I feel your pain” – in response to an OP you had written about Hillary’s alleged unelectability. (See http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251704260#post107 )

The thread I made that statement in had absolutely nothing to do with healthcare whatsoever. And you KNOW that. And yet you persisted in misleading others into thinking my “I feel your pain” remark was a sarcastic response to you having lost a child due to inadequate healthcare – an event I wasn’t even aware of before you accused me of being “sarcastic” about it.

Aside from our frequent disagreements over politics, I really thought you were better than this. I was absolutely gobsmacked that you would accuse me of saying things I’ve never said – and, when challenged to provide proof of same, that you would quote a response I made to your contention that “millions of Democrats would stay home rather than vote for HRC” as being a comment that you and yours “were not good enough” for universal healthcare.

And as I write this, I see you are STILL persisting in your dishonesty in this thread. ”I wouldn't have got so upset if she hadn't kept on lecturing me and then put personal insults on top of that after I apologized to her.”

Again you are implying that I “lectured” you about healthcare in an exchange about HRC's electability. It really doesn’t get more dishonest than that.

As I said in my last response to you on the thread in question: You should be ashamed. And now you should be doubly ashamed for continuing the lie that I “lectured” you about your lack of healthcare, when we both know I didn’t.

You raised the topic of my husband’s passing in order to score political points. You then lied about what I’d said about healthcare. And you’re still playing the victim, and insinuating that I DID indeed say things I never said.

Yeah, I know. My post will be alerted on and hidden – for whatever reason your colleagues can come up with. And that’s just fine – because nothing screams “READ ME!” like a post that’s got that flashing neon “hidden” sign on it.

No. I could not imagine saying it non-sarcastically Sanity Claws Jan 2016 #1
Used by a friend it may mean something. Used by a politician it's a crock of shit platitude. CBGLuthier Jan 2016 #2
It usually means I understand. But if Bill is trying to tell jwirr Jan 2016 #3
Considering the source (the 1992 source that is), at best it's insincere tularetom Jan 2016 #4
It is a statement of empathy. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #5
On the contrary SheenaR Feb 2016 #29
Is yelling I feel your pain at an AIDS activist really an expression of empathy from a Presidential merrily Feb 2016 #37
I only use it when I can relate it to mine own personal experience. SamKnause Jan 2016 #6
I know there are no words.. Fumesucker Jan 2016 #12
I agree with your point . TheFarS1de Feb 2016 #34
Mark of a good politician HassleCat Jan 2016 #7
How long will it be before Hillary says it? Fumesucker Jan 2016 #13
I don't think she will HassleCat Jan 2016 #15
I have never said it to anyone, but I don't find it offensive Glorfindel Jan 2016 #8
It's a sign of human empathy. Tho there are other tones of voice, I'm going with empathy... Hekate Jan 2016 #9
I'm personally convinced that universal health care would have saved my child Fumesucker Jan 2016 #11
As I already said, I go by personal history and other interactions. In your case... Hekate Feb 2016 #39
Most other times it is glib and insincere unless you have suffered the same thing. snagglepuss Jan 2016 #10
It's called having empathy. Beaverhausen Jan 2016 #14
Actually, that was sympathy and compassion loyalsister Feb 2016 #25
Context is everything. It can be cruel or empathetic Arazi Jan 2016 #16
Thank you.. Fumesucker Jan 2016 #17
It's better than saying that having to work 3 jobs is "fantastic" DefenseLawyer Feb 2016 #18
A high bar indeed Fumesucker Feb 2016 #19
THIS is your apology? NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #20
You might recall I apologized to you in the earlier thread, you continued to insult me Fumesucker Feb 2016 #22
That's not the point ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #23
I really didn't want to drag this all up again Fumesucker Feb 2016 #28
Fine. NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #31
Here is your hero proving your old opinion of her Fumesucker Feb 2016 #32
So you have no link ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #35
That is a response to said post. sheshe2 Feb 2016 #36
Fumesucker.... Hekate Feb 2016 #43
Maybe you shouldn't have started it, if you can't finish? Cary Feb 2016 #40
Nance... Hekate Feb 2016 #42
Thanks, Hekate. NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #44
If they would actually take my pain, that would be a nice thing. Live and Learn Feb 2016 #21
For the most part, I wouldn't trust anyone who said that. SMC22307 Feb 2016 #24
It depends aswanson Feb 2016 #26
Or experience Fumesucker Feb 2016 #33
I might say it over trivial matters. "My boss is such an asshole. He's making me work this weekend Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #27
It would be offensive to me, jen63 Feb 2016 #30
Jury results. merrily Feb 2016 #38
I don't understand the obsession with personalities Cary Feb 2016 #41
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