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OLDMDDEM

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53. 1st Debate

Thu Oct 4, 2012, 08:41 AM

Oct 2012

Many of the people who watched the debate will believe everything the candidates say. None of it may be true, but the people don't know that. Obama was not aggressive enough and, yes I realize it's not in his character, but he needs to come out in Debate #2 as an attack dog, being a fact checker on what happened in Debate #1. Yes, the Mittster lied through his teeth in several statements, but the fact that he (Mittster) was aggressive will change the polls and make this election appear much closer than it should be.

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Team Obama went on a reconnaissance mission in the 1st debate. The attack is coming. So chill. [View all] RBInMaine Oct 2012 OP

True, how can a debater "win" if they lied? treestar Oct 2012 #1

Because it's not really a debate, in the formal sense JHB Oct 2012 #15

If 'the Big Bird thing' is what people remember, it will show how broken American politics is muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #29

Big Bird has been a target for years lalalu Oct 2012 #42

Big Bird stands for PBS treestar Oct 2012 #63

The problem with public tv such as Sesame Street going to commercial interests is... kwolf68 Oct 2012 #70

"People just need to chill and see the big picture." ailsagirl Oct 2012 #2

The pundits & MSM are all on "style, tone, aggressiveness...bla bla bla" and not SUBSTANCE. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #4

Give them time. They had huge hopes for Obama and were sorely disappointed ailsagirl Oct 2012 #14

Yes, after 20 minutes Tweety had calmed down. Ed., not so much sammytko Oct 2012 #59

Ed had recent back surgery, plus his wife has been ill--that could have something to do with it ailsagirl Oct 2012 #65

If they are so powerful, why wallow in "disappointment?" treestar Oct 2012 #64

This message was self-deleted by its author ailsagirl Oct 2012 #67

Their initial reactions were pretty understandable ailsagirl Oct 2012 #68

+1 Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2012 #73

I think you are right clydefrand Oct 2012 #34

Biggest difference is that Lehrer (mister "but, but.....") won't be "moderating" George II Oct 2012 #57

Uhh, no Iggy Oct 2012 #3

Uhh YES. You, like all of them, are reacting to "style, aggressiveness, bla bla bla," not substance. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #6

indeed. Romney to me seems frantic. Voice for Peace Oct 2012 #10

Another BIG Load... Iggy Oct 2012 #12

He channeled McCain, not Reagan. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #9

What? Iggy Oct 2012 #13

Romney channeled McCain with his aggressive, angry performance. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #22

A nice take on what happened, I would have said Grampa McCain though davidpdx Oct 2012 #20

I only saw the first few minutes before my teevee crapped out magical thyme Oct 2012 #62

Should not have that reconnaissance mission already have taken place? Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #5

Of course they watched his past debates, but you still have to see what he is going to pull in THIS. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #7

Which debates? LiberalFighter Oct 2012 #51

The GOP primaries Sherman A1 Oct 2012 #71

YES! cpamomfromtexas Oct 2012 #8

Amen. Romney gave them mountains of fodder for ads. NYC Liberal Oct 2012 #11

Mr. President show us some back-bone WV Democrat 59 Oct 2012 #16

Starting that again lalalu Oct 2012 #39

The President does NOT nor has he EVER lacked 'backbone,' as you put it. ailsagirl Oct 2012 #49

Romney was hyper aggressive AgingAmerican Oct 2012 #56

The way I see it... DaveJ Oct 2012 #61

thank you. barbtries Oct 2012 #17

'Team Obama went on a reconnaissance mission' TroyD Oct 2012 #18

Remember, Obama hasn't debated in 4 years & had to feel out Mitt in THIS campaign, not the others. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #24

Not a good argument Sophiegirl Oct 2012 #26

Any 'debates' with world leaders are different muriel_volestrangler Oct 2012 #35

Not the 9D Chess-Rope-a-dope-"he's giving them rope" BS Doctor_J Oct 2012 #19

That's how President Obama won lalalu Oct 2012 #32

Not worried... SoFlaJet Oct 2012 #21

he also kept popping up on his toes, rising and falling Ghost of Tom Joad Oct 2012 #23

You are 100% correct oldbanjo Oct 2012 #40

Was his plan to act defeated, tired, and uninspiring? nt geek tragedy Oct 2012 #25

Ummm... don't think so. Or was that a rhetorical question? ailsagirl Oct 2012 #69

Obama's Rope-A-Dope? longship Oct 2012 #27

I'll believe the 'Rope-A-Dope' strategy when I see it TroyD Oct 2012 #33

I heard those words before lalalu Oct 2012 #38

I don't really think those are comparable TroyD Oct 2012 #55

The Pres is playing rope-a-dope. Next debate Romney will left in the dust. Clear Blue Sky Oct 2012 #28

But people were predicting at this time yesterday TroyD Oct 2012 #31

Well this was the first debate, now Romney is on the record for stuff so if he tries to backtrack cstanleytech Oct 2012 #43

He did this to Trump lalalu Oct 2012 #36

I feel the same way lalalu Oct 2012 #30

It's hard to debate a habitual lier... skeewee08 Oct 2012 #37

O is holding back..WHY??? dicksmc3 Oct 2012 #41

Because until the debate romney has been dodging answers and now romney is on the record cstanleytech Oct 2012 #44

Yep, "But Governor, in our first debate you said...." tridim Oct 2012 #45

I really, REALLY want to believe you... sa2968 Oct 2012 #46

I don't watch debates anymore PatrynXX Oct 2012 #47

I'm tired of "just waiting" for Obama to stand up and fight. obxhead Oct 2012 #48

I hope you are right. MatthewStLouis Oct 2012 #50

I agree. Prez could have... slor Oct 2012 #52

1st Debate OLDMDDEM Oct 2012 #53

I felt like I watched something entirely different meadowlark5 Oct 2012 #54

Exactement, mon ami bucolic_frolic Oct 2012 #58

I hope you are right, but I was pretty sad after the "debate" GetRidOfThem Oct 2012 #60

THIS MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE AT ALL smorkingapple Oct 2012 #66

Thank you. Myrina Oct 2012 #72