2016 Postmortem

azurnoir

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56. That's just sad for our party

Reply to HooptieWagon (Reply #55)

Sat Feb 13, 2016, 01:06 PM

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DNC Chair: Superdelegates Make Sure Party Leaders Don’t Have to Run Against Grassroots Activists [View all] yurbud Feb 2016 OP

DINO Debbie only wants top-down astroturfers. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #1

If nothing else, this is exactly what this very strange primary has made clear. RiverLover Feb 2016 #19

+1000000 azmom Feb 2016 #29

In fact, they TARNISH that label... MrMickeysMom Feb 2016 #75

From the horses mouth... DemocraticSocialist8 Feb 2016 #2

not sure you've identified the right end of the horse FBaggins Feb 2016 #37

Ahh.. Beat me to it! Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #41

It's all about the illusion of democracy. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #3

It's about what Bernie is fighting against, the insidious corporate control over our Democracy! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #34

Sadly true Ferd Berfel Feb 2016 #42

Democratic fear of democracy -- disheartening (nt) pat_k Feb 2016 #4

If they play the superdelegates card, a Clinton nomination is illegitimate. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #5

"Illegitimate" is the word. Nyan Feb 2016 #8

Sure are a lot of superdelegates lobodons Feb 2016 #10

And if this happens, I vote Bernie as an independent. Kittycat Feb 2016 #65

They can try it but thanks to the Internet TBF Feb 2016 #68

Indeed, it will NOT be a secret to the voters. Nor will it help Clinton's untrustworthiness n/t arcane1 Feb 2016 #76

...and Hillary is going Swift Boat!!! Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #36

If they play the superdelegate care, the repugs win everything PFunk1 Feb 2016 #51

Yes, that is exactly what will happen. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #54

That may actually be the plan Hydra Feb 2016 #64

The Democratic Party not honoring Democracy! AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #6

go ahead, dino debbie, bring it restorefreedom Feb 2016 #7

Dino Deb is being PRIMARIED! Let's support her opponent Duppers Feb 2016 #78

excellent! nt restorefreedom Feb 2016 #80

Superdelegates are also elected officials lobodons Feb 2016 #9

by the time their next election comes around, it would be yesterday's news yurbud Feb 2016 #26

The news would last at least 4 years. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #30

I hope it would, but pols make decisions based on most of us having short memories. yurbud Feb 2016 #35

Many superdelegates are Congressman.... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #44

Great point. If I had a Dem rep, I would send them a letter about that right now. yurbud Feb 2016 #67

Dem governors are also superdelegates. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #71

problem: too late to primary them by this summer. So unless there's a good independent already qeued yurbud Feb 2016 #69

Keep digging Debbie davidpdx Feb 2016 #11

If superdelegates don't flip to the person who wins the popular vote, it would be over Vinca Feb 2016 #12

Agreed. Superdelegate theft would mean a Clinton nomination is illegitimate. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #22

We want you all to participate and attend, and THINK that your vote matters in choosing Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #13

exactly. Is there much better proof that we're an oligarchy not a democracy? yurbud Feb 2016 #24

Bingo! A former POTUS, Jimmy Carter said the same thing. I think he would know. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #40

so which party is DSW working for again? azurnoir Feb 2016 #14

The Democratic Party leftofcool Feb 2016 #17

so stopping grass roots Democratic candidates is a value of the Democratic Party-got it azurnoir Feb 2016 #18

that statement is like a vampire driving a stake into his own heart. Like Rahm, DWS is a pol only yurbud Feb 2016 #23

DWS already has a record of that. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #55

That's just sad for our party azurnoir Feb 2016 #56

Does that me4an you are pro Wall Street and against Bohemianwriter Feb 2016 #57

Nice party you have there.. frylock Feb 2016 #61

Money Party Iggy Knorr Feb 2016 #46

Oh please, DWS, let the superdelegates decide. joshcryer Feb 2016 #15

Yes, thank you, no more McGoverns! leftofcool Feb 2016 #16

McGovern was going up against a sitting President SheenaR Feb 2016 #27

A very crooked sitting President, I might add Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #39

That wasn't known until just after the election. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #48

I think 1972 was also the first year Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #73

I think they were casually dating then. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #74

Nope, Bernie is a McGovern repeat leftofcool Feb 2016 #43

And where is Hillary going to win in the GE SheenaR Feb 2016 #59

You are parroting nonsense Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #83

McGovern's social media presence was really lacking. frylock Feb 2016 #62

Is this an example of 30+ years of rw brainwashing noiretextatique Feb 2016 #81

I think they're necessary ... NurseJackie Feb 2016 #20

^ Wilms Feb 2016 #21

How parallel is the old DLC list-serv and the list of superdelegates for say 1996 and 2004? HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author SheenaR Feb 2016 #28

There are no winner take all states. leftofcool Feb 2016 #45

There is no defending the indefensible. Kip Humphrey Feb 2016 #31

I saw that, too. pangaia Feb 2016 #32

They are going to kill the party. They are willfully blind to the destruction their shenanigans will Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #47

Unfortunately, I think you are correct Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #79

if the Democratic Party overturned the Dem voters decision, it would be clear the party yurbud Feb 2016 #33

A tough time getting votes... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #50

the DLC/centrist/Corporatista wing put Dem Party in similar bind as GOP: yurbud Feb 2016 #66

At that point they would rename it..The Ferengi Party. yourout Feb 2016 #52

Want to help UNSEAT DWS in the primaries?? DinahMoeHum Feb 2016 #38

Grassroots analysis. UnBlinkingEye Feb 2016 #49

BUT She May Also Be Facing A Buzz Saw Herself! ChiciB1 Feb 2016 #53

Political Revolution kenn3d Feb 2016 #58

I can honestly say SheenaR Feb 2016 #60

"third parties are spoilers! vote in the primaries instead!" "if you don't vote you can't complain!" MisterP Feb 2016 #63

I suspect Greens will get a lot of votes if Clinton steals the nomination. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #72

Happy V-Day Debs. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #70

I'm wondering how Obama made it through the superdelegates gauntlet? cyberpj Feb 2016 #77

Maybe they are "anointed" after all EndElectoral Feb 2016 #82

Superdelegates offsetting the results of primaries is unconstitutional IMHO Samantha Feb 2016 #84

Could you summarize that in a couple of lines, so we can bombard Hillary & DWS with it? yurbud Feb 2016 #85

This was extremely difficult. I am not sure you will like what I came up with, just let me know Samantha Feb 2016 #86

that's good. I mean the relevant Supreme Court decision too. yurbud Feb 2016 #89

Repost this as an OP! LongTomH Feb 2016 #88

My tweet to Debbie Wasserman-Schultz yurbud Feb 2016 #90

Is it democracy???? kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #87