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47. It's going to be a nightmare if HRC wins the primary

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Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:15 AM

Feb 2016

Her supporters are foolish.

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The prevailing sentiment in this election is crystal fucking clear [View all] cali Feb 2016 OP

We need to get Sanders the nomination. Only he can beat the Rs. peacebird Feb 2016 #1

I think Bernie would be best, but safeinOhio Feb 2016 #2

If that's the case..... daleanime Feb 2016 #5

I'm hearing politically astute Dems say they'd vote Trump over HRC Divernan Feb 2016 #15

So these "politically astute dems" are willing to overlook sufrommich Feb 2016 #23

Yes - they consider HRC's pro-prison;pro welfare-"reform; pro-returning brown-skinned Divernan Feb 2016 #31

Are your "friends" OK with banning muslims sufrommich Feb 2016 #40

You've misunderstood the situation EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #57

Excellent response EdwardBernays! monicaangela Feb 2016 #78

I will never stay home. hifiguy Feb 2016 #110

I have to agree. HRC does not inspire the masses to support her. She has an uphill WestSeattle2 Feb 2016 #134

Perfectly stated Lorien Feb 2016 #152

AGREED! 100% CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #163

EdwardBernays reads this one perfectly correctly, IMHO as they say. highprincipleswork Feb 2016 #157

I have a feeling Hillary supporter's concern over Muslims JoeyT Feb 2016 #62

Thank you for bringing this up JoeyT monicaangela Feb 2016 #85

Yes, her ME record is terrible. cprise Feb 2016 #146

To mention a few! Duval Feb 2016 #43

Spot ON!!! monicaangela Feb 2016 #76

What's fucking clear to me............. serbbral Feb 2016 #83

Some might, monicaangela Feb 2016 #91

@monicaangela serbbral Feb 2016 #105

There are not enough registered minority Democrats TM99 Feb 2016 #133

Please..... serbbral Feb 2016 #153

The youth and the independents also turned TM99 Feb 2016 #160

Indeed. 2banon Feb 2016 #162

These "Dems" support a racist, misogynist, anti-choice, anti-same sex marriage candidate. onenote Feb 2016 #53

Where does that get you? Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #61

Trump is the the left of Hillary maindawg Feb 2016 #116

You are correct StoneCarver Feb 2016 #127

No Dem who was politically astute would let a Republican... Nitram Feb 2016 #28

Dunno how far I count in that metric since I fell Democratic till 2013, when I switched to Ind VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #30

Your issue is who is more pro-war, Hillary or Trump. Divernan Feb 2016 #38

To be fair, VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #42

Spot ON! monicaangela Feb 2016 #93

you don't remember how Trump was buddie-buddie /w Gaddafi along /w the Bushgangs decade of rule? Sunlei Feb 2016 #158

Doesn't mean it's ok for an alleged Democrat to laugh at his death. n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #159

Politically astute and voting for Trump are mutually exclusive mythology Feb 2016 #32

Ding Ding Ding!!! onenote Feb 2016 #54

Most realize that HRC's recent Road-To-Damascus Progressive 'conversion'... will last about as AzDar Feb 2016 #72

Reading comprehension is a must... monicaangela Feb 2016 #94

Those are not politically astute Dems tiredtoo Feb 2016 #75

Then they are not "politically astute." They are idiots. nt Adrahil Feb 2016 #82

I'm hearing the same thing - in liberal Seattle of all places. Blue collar Dem guys - can't stand WestSeattle2 Feb 2016 #126

Trump over HRC......yeah Newtownian Feb 2016 #135

I would not vote for trump Pharaoh Feb 2016 #136

Doesn't read like that from here. Kingofalldems Feb 2016 #138

All lifelong Dems, all politically involved, all 45 or older Divernan Feb 2016 #150

I think that's most likely true. Vinca Feb 2016 #3

I think you may be correct peacebird Feb 2016 #4

He would also run to Clinton's left on Iraq eridani Feb 2016 #5

Which, let's face it, would be very attractive to a lot of democrats.... daleanime Feb 2016 #7

He'll be to her left on Iraq, Trade, Money in Politics pengu Feb 2016 #8

+1000 Shadowflash Feb 2016 #65

the party's been so used to blaming us naughty lefties for wanting too much and taking our votes MisterP Feb 2016 #107

It takes as little as 10% of the people to start a revolution. n/t WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2016 #117

I can readily imagine that happening. hifiguy Feb 2016 #111

Trump supporters really only have two issues randr Feb 2016 #13

3 issues - don't forget racism and xenophobia. nt Lucky Luciano Feb 2016 #19

I tend to assume this is their inner nature randr Feb 2016 #25

No randr, they hate a lot more Democrats than the Clintons. Nitram Feb 2016 #29

Just a few items from that long list. WHEN CRABS ROAR Feb 2016 #119

Republicans hate the Clintons and they have decades of practice. earthshine Feb 2016 #147

Your only mistake, shine, and it's a big one is to assume... Nitram Feb 2016 #164

I agree that both H & B would face equal opposition in Congress. earthshine Feb 2016 #165

Tend to agree with ya marions ghost Feb 2016 #81

My sentiments exactly Vinca! monicaangela Feb 2016 #95

i really really hope you're wrong 0rganism Feb 2016 #121

I think their top priority is to keep outsiders out, and to get a 0.1%er into the WH. So I don't GoneFishin Feb 2016 #9

^^This^^ It's more important than winning. Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #46

I think people on the left are better tuned into who is to blame. But at least some on the right GoneFishin Feb 2016 #101

Is it? "Anti-establishment" isn't clear to me Recursion Feb 2016 #10

I'm not saying it's well thought out. In fact, I'd say much of it cali Feb 2016 #14

When has that not been true? (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #17

"Anti-establishment" kills "experience" as a selling point. Barack_America Feb 2016 #21

And oh my god, the way Trump has obliterated people for political experience... intersectionality Feb 2016 #71

Sad but true intersectionality monicaangela Feb 2016 #97

"I'm not saying it's well thought out. In fact, I'd say much of it is the opposite." NCTraveler Feb 2016 #161

An end to the pay-to-play status quo Cowpunk Feb 2016 #18

I've heard that on RW radio since 1990 or so (nt) Recursion Feb 2016 #20

And doesn't it strike you as odd ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2016 #22

I don't think we're allowed to go there in GDP... Recursion Feb 2016 #24

True YCHDT Feb 2016 #149

The Republicans were smart enough to dump Jeb and we Democrats have also been smart ... oh, wait Vote2016 Feb 2016 #11

We'll run whoever gets the most delegates. Codeine Feb 2016 #12

And it's a system that is as rigged as hifiguy Feb 2016 #112

This is what I went to bed thinking about... Barack_America Feb 2016 #16

Agree marions ghost Feb 2016 #87

That would be the DWS approach Thespian2 Feb 2016 #26

Ain't democracy grand? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #27

yes it will timmymoff Feb 2016 #33

People that don't follow politics like the people on this board workinclasszero Feb 2016 #39

What is interesting is that is the SAME thing Cosmocat Feb 2016 #49

Republicans are insane nativists workinclasszero Feb 2016 #63

True story Cosmocat Feb 2016 #84

So true workinclasszero Feb 2016 #88

YEP Cosmocat Feb 2016 #92

You know they would! workinclasszero Feb 2016 #108

Some of us have more than one vote(superdelegates, shenanigans at the caucuses/polls) jhart3333 Feb 2016 #60

Working harder is how monicaangela Feb 2016 #98

Why wouldn't the dominant philosophy of the dominant leaders dominate sentiments HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #34

Yep. Bernie capture the anti-establisment vote for the left Elmergantry Feb 2016 #35

Perhaps the anti-establishment aren't the party base that they thought they were Tarc Feb 2016 #36

Hillary is winning the base of the democratic party big time. workinclasszero Feb 2016 #41

She owes a lot of that to Bill, and some to noiretextatique Feb 2016 #114

Give me a reason why this won't work? LemmingWarrior Feb 2016 #37

If Bernie doesn't get the nom LittleGirl Feb 2016 #44

+1 except I am in Minnesota, hifiguy Feb 2016 #113

I'm glad to hear LittleGirl Feb 2016 #145

That's my thought too. nt Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #52

Bernie wants to uninstall corporatocracy and restore democracy. Snarkoleptic Feb 2016 #45

That's a great line. JudyM Feb 2016 #68

It's going to be a nightmare if HRC wins the primary Android3.14 Feb 2016 #47

More helpful outreach Cosmocat Feb 2016 #48

Your argument is predicated on Trump winning or running the table. FSogol Feb 2016 #50

I would NEVER vote for Trump Harriety Feb 2016 #51

I'm with you Harriety monicaangela Feb 2016 #99

Don't worry, they're already blaming Sanders supporters for her loss in the general Chathamization Feb 2016 #55

I've always found the Ted Cruz argument to be farcical. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #56

Then why are you losing, op? eom artyteacher Feb 2016 #58

B..b..but Bernie is establishment too! Jester Messiah Feb 2016 #59

@Jester Messiah serbbral Feb 2016 #106

She has more freight than that.... humbled_opinion Feb 2016 #64

Funny how Democracy works, isn't it. leftofcool Feb 2016 #66

Odd phrasing you have there. You do understand that Bernie is way ahead in the popular vote. Bluenorthwest Feb 2016 #123

They do not realize RoccoR5955 Feb 2016 #67

The Anti-Establishment Mood is Very Strong On the Road Feb 2016 #69

If the voter turnout is any indication from the last of these events................... turbinetree Feb 2016 #70

So Bernie can't win the nomination redstateblues Feb 2016 #73

Exactly cali! monicaangela Feb 2016 #74

I have been talking to some politically astute Republicans tiredtoo Feb 2016 #77

The dynamics in this election are so bad Cosmocat Feb 2016 #90

Personally i support Bernie tiredtoo Feb 2016 #100

You want NOTHING to do with Rubio Cosmocat Feb 2016 #102

Well, i guess we have to agree to disagree tiredtoo Feb 2016 #103

Not sure that that sentiment is prevailing. Orsino Feb 2016 #79

We want fresh air! JonathanRackham Feb 2016 #80

Cali, it's a psyche game right now Matariki Feb 2016 #86

I don't think so. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #89

Hillary is completely unelectable. Luckily for America, Bernie has a path to the Whitehouse. (nt) w4rma Feb 2016 #96

Friends tiredtoo Feb 2016 #104

She is a disaster waiting to happen in the GE. hifiguy Feb 2016 #109

Anti-establishment = Patriots, pro-establishment: tories, loyalists AZ Progressive Feb 2016 #115

It's almost as if they don't mind losing... truebluegreen Feb 2016 #118

K & R Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #120

Wait, wait . . . . . don't forget . . . .. pdsimdars Feb 2016 #122

yes it is clear azureblue Feb 2016 #124

Brilliance Is No Longer Part Of The DNC DWS DLC Third-Way Establishment Party cantbeserious Feb 2016 #125

Establishment .... or rather Outlaw Country? Babel_17 Feb 2016 #128

Brilliant is right LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #129

Worst Candidate Ever mhatrw Feb 2016 #130

That certainly seems to be the strategy. Kall Feb 2016 #131

I'm starting to realize Donald Trump is actually going to be president. fbc Feb 2016 #132

Too small a sample and too soon for such a judgment. onenote Feb 2016 #137

"The anti-establishment vote is far larger than the "I'm just fine with the establishment" vote." Tarc Feb 2016 #139

Yep. The one thing Bernie and Trump have in common is anti-establishment. Hiraeth Feb 2016 #140

. Go Vols Feb 2016 #141

Well said! Don Draper Feb 2016 #142

Yep. Bernie can win, if we can prevail against the Clinton campaign, PatrickforO Feb 2016 #143

"Hillary has all the freight..." dchill Feb 2016 #144

Debbie showed in 2014 that the status quo can win, even without millennials! Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #148

Disestablishers and antidisestablishers. The antidisestablishers have the money, media and power. merrily Feb 2016 #151

Have you yelled out the window lately? Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #154

Get back in line sheep! iamthebandfanman Feb 2016 #155

I vow NEVER to vote for Hillary ! It's Bernie ALL the Way, Even If I have to write him in. urbuddha Feb 2016 #156