2016 Postmortem

Nanjeanne

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105. Don't speak for me.

Reply to Andy823 (Reply #99)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:22 PM

Feb 2016

My view of a Democrat is not just a word. It is a vision for the country.

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Those Who Say They Won't Support the Eventual Nominee -- Consider This... [View all] Stand and Fight Feb 2016 OP

Look a little further out mindwalker_i Feb 2016 #1

But is she any more than him? scscholar Feb 2016 #36

Any more than which him? Bernie? Bernie is honest & trustworthy. Hillary lies and panders. peacebird Feb 2016 #201

Think there's a combination of Green Party people, brand new voters, a few non-political types kerry-is-my-prez Feb 2016 #62

Nailed it Lizz612 Feb 2016 #90

+10 840high Feb 2016 #65

yes - Merryland Feb 2016 #177

Thanks, but I have considered it. Barack_America Feb 2016 #2

So... I'm curious. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #5

Wouldn't it be my only choice? Barack_America Feb 2016 #15

I'm not sure I understand your question. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #19

There would only be a choice of Republicans on the ballot. Barack_America Feb 2016 #22

Awww... I see. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #29

There would be a Green Party candidate on there, too. artislife Feb 2016 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Ned_Devine Feb 2016 #55

There is no reason to take the bait. Your vote is your business. merrily Feb 2016 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Ned_Devine Feb 2016 #86

It's a potential violation of the Terms of Service. There's supposedly more merrily Feb 2016 #88

Thank you! Ned_Devine Feb 2016 #113

You're welcome, but you could also reword. merrily Feb 2016 #116

No biggins. I'm letting this place get to me Ned_Devine Feb 2016 #118

I've put a whole bunch of them on ignore. Merryland Feb 2016 #179

Yes, that makes sense to me. Thanks for the input. n/t Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #56

Many of us have decided we will not vote for the lesser of evils and yes we do have somewhere haikugal Feb 2016 #136

I've heard this argument before. Frances Feb 2016 #202

I was one who warned against Reagan..nice try. haikugal Feb 2016 #203

and a write-in space in almost all states. Merryland Feb 2016 #178

Stop baiting people into posting things that could get them hides. Thanks in advance. merrily Feb 2016 #77

It depends entirely on your state. hifiguy Feb 2016 #3

Understandable. I'm asking about things beyond the primary. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #11

This is nothing like 1972 or 1980. And fyi, Mondale was a moderate, despite merrily Feb 2016 #83

Not Reagan? Even Massachusetts went for Reagan and it went McGovern in 1972, merrily Feb 2016 #81

Nope we went for our home state son, hifiguy Feb 2016 #93

Ah, favorite son. Good for your state! Massachusetts fell for the Gipper, but merrily Feb 2016 #94

It doesn't show on my phone hifiguy Feb 2016 #95

The fucking planet will NOT support life if we don't do something now. What the hell is onecaliberal Feb 2016 #4

Wow....thank you! Punkingal Feb 2016 #7

Calm down... Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #8

Enjoy my dust bin. onecaliberal Feb 2016 #9

That seems like an odd response. el_bryanto Feb 2016 #17

I'm very confused by that kind of vitriol. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #20

Hillary is going to push fracking and more war... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #43

EXACTLY! nt ccinamon Feb 2016 #53

As sure as eggs is eggs hifiguy Feb 2016 #97

Please name all the progressive things Bill Clinton accomplished in office, other than the merrily Feb 2016 #92

Thank you onecaliberal! NEOhiodemocrat Feb 2016 #60

Thank you. 840high Feb 2016 #67

+1 merrily Feb 2016 #89

I always wondered why they called that procedure fracking. Hatchling Feb 2016 #120

I never did. Did they use "fracking" as a substitute for the f word? merrily Feb 2016 #121

No, it's definitely slang for "fracturing", the means by which they expose the resources desired. JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #127

That is exactly how I used it upthread (jokingly), but I got a reply about Battlestar Galactica merrily Feb 2016 #130

Yes! Hatchling Feb 2016 #132

Thank you! merrily Feb 2016 #133

Boom!! haikugal Feb 2016 #138

another loyalty pledge post. Trashing thread. liberal_at_heart Feb 2016 #6

How is it a pledge? Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #10

Please see your replies 5 and 29 and my reply 77. merrily Feb 2016 #96

There sure have been a bunch of those today, all wrapped in different packaging. djean111 Feb 2016 #12

Why should today be different from any day in the last 2 or 3 years? merrily Feb 2016 #102

authoritarian mindsets Merryland Feb 2016 #182

Uh... bvf Feb 2016 #13

Loyalty oath time already? farleftlib Feb 2016 #14

Best to ignore them. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #16

I was hoping for a discussion. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #23

Since the start of this primary, this has NOT been a Democratic board. nt kjones Feb 2016 #26

It certainly seems that way. n/t Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #28

It's just an old discussion Bradical79 Feb 2016 #30

Not everyone is on DU 24/7 and participated in said discussion(s)... Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #33

Dinnae matter. DUers who have already responded to thousands of OPs like yours merrily Feb 2016 #85

i suspect a significant number of the more extreme drray23 Feb 2016 #31

Handing Trump the Presidency -- Precisely! Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #35

If that's your concern then why are you supporting a losing candidate? She will lose. haikugal Feb 2016 #139

Yours is the 8 millionth post on the subject. jeff47 Feb 2016 #44

STANDING O!!! ccinamon Feb 2016 #59

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Feb 2016 #104

A Republican is going to be President eventually. Kall Feb 2016 #112

I want to bear the children of this post, up to and including the last line. merrily Feb 2016 #141

Very well stated. n/t Beartracks Feb 2016 #152

Why don't you vote for OUR candidate in the primary? HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #47

Why don't you respect others' choices? Lizz612 Feb 2016 #111

Oh, so you want us to respect your choice... HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #129

Disrespect Lizz612 Feb 2016 #171

So "respectfully" = "give me a pony"? ebayfool Feb 2016 #150

Oh so I'm part of the precipitate? Lizz612 Feb 2016 #172

You're the one that threw out "Why don't you just give me a pony?" while mumbling about respect. ebayfool Feb 2016 #174

Mumbling? Lizz612 Feb 2016 #181

LOL! You're alright! ebayfool Feb 2016 #193

I get that ... and good luck. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #74

If you think this is about hurt feelings and/or disappointment, you ain't been listening. merrily Feb 2016 #107

Why listen to republican-enablers? It's pointless, there is no common ground to be found with seaglass Feb 2016 #188

Fine. Don't listen. Just don't make up sh*t. merrily Feb 2016 #190

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #18

No one I interact with daily in the meat world intends to. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #72

Please see Replies 79 and 88 on this thread. Thank you. merrily Feb 2016 #108

Life for me has been OK since 2010 katmondoo Feb 2016 #21

That's the way I see it as well. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #25

The irony of people complaining about loyalty oaths while seemingly taking one for Bernie. kjones Feb 2016 #24

Um, you might want to look up farleftlib Feb 2016 #27

Hmm... kjones Feb 2016 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author merrily Feb 2016 #98

"seemingly" taking an oath? LOL! o.k. nt merrily Feb 2016 #100

You're right... kjones Feb 2016 #134

Oh, that's merely false. I would have stuck with funny if I were you. merrily Feb 2016 #135

Well, you can lead a bro to water but you can't make 'em drink. kjones Feb 2016 #140

Funny to false to non sequitur. You should have quit while you were almost ahead. merrily Feb 2016 #142

Sexist? You'll have to explain that one. kjones Feb 2016 #154

No, not self-explanatory. merrily Feb 2016 #157

Agree... Mike Nelson Feb 2016 #32

here's the thing EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #37

That makes no sense. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #38

if you thought... EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #40

+1000 HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #49

Well Said! ccinamon Feb 2016 #51

Carrying about America more is precisely why I DON'T want a Republican in office. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #52

nonsense EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #58

Distrusted by the majority of Americans? Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #63

It doesn't matter if it's correct, it's the perception that counts farleftlib Feb 2016 #73

I'm not EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #76

No, you're wrong. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #78

That's correct - significantly more people distrust Clinton than voted for Bush EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #80

MOST Excellent reply!!! ccinamon Feb 2016 #64

Then give people a reason to go out and vote! Beowulf Feb 2016 #66

YES! ccinamon Feb 2016 #68

The Party needs to learn not to constantly crap on the left wing. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #75

That's a problem with a broad coalition party. BillZBubb Feb 2016 #149

I agree with most of that. Where I disagree is the line Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #162

Actually in political science theory it is called punishign the party nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #106

This EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #189

We have a democracy? nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #191

Absolutely EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #192

By the way this might be of more than passing interest to you nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #194

I saw that EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #195

Lovely grenade toss my friend nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #196

it's a fun passtime... EdwardBernays Feb 2016 #197

EdwardBernays never said he wouldn't vote. merrily Feb 2016 #122

well said. Merryland Feb 2016 #183

Consider this... OZi Feb 2016 #39

STANDING O!!!! ccinamon Feb 2016 #48

You assume I see either Democrat as bad or scary. I don't. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #50

And that is why the party is failing to earn my support. n/t OZi Feb 2016 #71

Where in that post did you see any assumptions at all about you? merrily Feb 2016 #123

But the Republicans a Democratic President will nominate to the Supreme Court are better than the merrily Feb 2016 #115

Yes, I have thought of the ramifications..... ccinamon Feb 2016 #41

A great quote, forget who said it... Merryland Feb 2016 #185

Arrrrgh will you allow democracy to go ahead in peace and stop?! JackRiddler Feb 2016 #45

In my closet I have a Howard Dean tshirt. Codeine Feb 2016 #46

That's gonna be a great feeling for you! I know how you feel! Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #54

Maintaining The Status Quo For Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Is The Limit Of HRC's Vision cantbeserious Feb 2016 #57

That is how I see her as well. ccinamon Feb 2016 #61

..+1 840high Feb 2016 #69

I think her vision is to be the first woman President. merrily Feb 2016 #125

I'm done with the Party in general. It no longer represent my point of view. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #70

EXACTLY!!!!! nt ccinamon Feb 2016 #84

I am not a DEM, I have nothing in common with these Hillary supporters m-lekktor Feb 2016 #87

Likewise. I'm here because it is (was?) a bastion of progressivism. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #187

I have been considering shit since they started killing our leaders in the 60's SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #82

Either we unite or there needs to be preparing for a Republican president Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #91

Problem is Andy823 Feb 2016 #99

Hillary is an actual Democrat? She's a minion of the 1%. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #103

There are more than one person who has wealth who are Democrats, Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #126

Hobbit said nothing about her wealth. Look up "minion," or read the post again merrily Feb 2016 #137

she's not one of them. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #161

She was Democrat before her net worth rose, yes she is Democrat. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #167

Corporate D, not an FDR-JFK style D. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #168

Your opinion, and does not mean she isn't Democrat. You don't have any Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #169

Just take at good look at her cronies. hobbit709 Feb 2016 #170

Don't speak for me. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #105

Agreed. Stand and Fight Feb 2016 #114

You start a condescending thread TM99 Feb 2016 #131

You're correct about the condescending nature of the OP. However, I saw no merrily Feb 2016 #146

As you correctly put it -- TM99 Feb 2016 #158

I'd rather shrug with a hug. merrily Feb 2016 #159

Awww....thanks. TM99 Feb 2016 #166

+infinity (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #155

Yes there are RW trolls here, we don't have to follow them, we can still vote Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #124

there is more to progressive-ism than issues Merryland Feb 2016 #186

A luxury Lizz612 Feb 2016 #101

There is an argument that voting LOTE causes more harm in the long run. merrily Feb 2016 #144

Mmm, true Lizz612 Feb 2016 #173

I didn't suggest you think only of the long term or that you vote in any specific way. merrily Feb 2016 #175

Ugh god Lizz612 Feb 2016 #184

Some facts and observations. merrily Feb 2016 #198

My. Vote. Is. my. Business. Period. kath Feb 2016 #109

If we won't address climate change proactively, economic crash will cut carbon emissions Dems to Win Feb 2016 #110

You are making some serious errors in logic. Kalidurga Feb 2016 #117

Let's see, in the last 8 years we let nearly 9 million more Americans fall under the povery line. CentralMass Feb 2016 #119

Failure to unite and elect democrats will produce more living in proverty. Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #128

The is one candidate in the race thst is talking about rebuilding this country from the bottom up an CentralMass Feb 2016 #145

I listened again tonight his interview with Chris Matthews, yes he is talking about Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #153

So we should support the candidate that won't even fucking talk about it? jeff47 Feb 2016 #156

He wants more than talk, why do you think he's running for president? /nt RiverLover Feb 2016 #164

I have heard revolution, break up the banks, Medicare for all, free Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #165

LOL! merrily Feb 2016 #147

Vote Democrat in November to keep the fascists out of the White House DemocraticWing Feb 2016 #143

The lesser of two evils argument. Seems it comes every election while the party keeps trending right EndElectoral Feb 2016 #148

As I have said many a time it really doesn't matter for me. Oklahoma is where I vote. CBGLuthier Feb 2016 #151

I see you changed your avatar PowerToThePeople Feb 2016 #160

The whole point of using the name "New Democrats" was to signify a distinct difference between merrily Feb 2016 #199

Those who want to so easily quit the 'revolution' should read your post and also consider this: randome Feb 2016 #163

So then you would vote for Bernie Sanders then if Hillary loses? INdemo Feb 2016 #176

I will vote for the most progressive candidate on my ballot. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #180

Loyalty Pledge. Trashing Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #200

Locking.. one_voice Feb 2016 #204