2016 Postmortem

JackRiddler

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74. Serious thinkers read before they react.

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:46 PM

Mar 2016

I said nothing on this, my post related to a claim about Massachusetts, so don't ambush me with your mean-sounding talking point. In a sense, I agree: really serious people do not talk about polls much at all, they debate issues in a discussion that allows exchange and development. They might discuss platforms for the country's future, instead of crap lke this. Here on DU, however, everyone brandishes polls as an exercise in bullying, bullshit and counter-bullshit. We act just like the bullshit media.

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CNN poll pairs Clinton and Sanders against the three GOP rivals in November matchups [View all] Bucky Mar 2016 OP

It's true that some have said that "electability is everything". highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #1

But somehow, they are all silent now. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #79

Another CRUCIAL reason we cannot elect HRC- A fraud on the whole country, which will cost 30 million Baobab Mar 2016 #88

Talk about gutting the middle class... Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #90

Disciplining Domestic Regulation (must read) Baobab Mar 2016 #105

Back to the 1850-ies, at first glance. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #110

Democratic Hari Kari AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #2

'If we are going to nominate someone who 50% of our people can't stand, elleng Mar 2016 #3

So how's that going to work in a matchup between Cruz and Clinton? . . . Journeyman Mar 2016 #5

Well, as cruz is ineligible to serve, elleng Mar 2016 #14

Keep dreamin' Bucky Mar 2016 #58

I do not challenge that he is a citizen. elleng Mar 2016 #63

I can see Trump's attorney's arguing this point in front of SCOTUS if Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #67

Right. elleng Mar 2016 #69

The King of Tort Reform in Texas wh'se ranch Scalia died at in Texas was probably trying to Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #70

Some may want to follow up, elleng Mar 2016 #71

Sounds like he may have his own mafia protection racket going on! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #72

About his mom: The question arises if... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #86

Imagine that! Clinton 1 for 3, Sanders 3 for 3! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #4

Well you know what Camp Weathervane will say? RoccoR5955 Mar 2016 #49

And unfortunately Benghazi, emails, etc is just a smoke screen for her more egregious behaviours GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #98

If Hillary is elected to become president, Unknown Beatle Mar 2016 #109

This is just one more reason that Hillary should pull out of the race. seaotter Mar 2016 #6

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #7

Of course the other major reason is that she may well be indicted before November. seaotter Mar 2016 #8

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #9

Yes, quite funny. seaotter Mar 2016 #10

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Mar 2016 #11

The irony is the lack of irony in your interlocutor posting that image. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #12

She is too deluded and obsessed with her ego and legacy HoosierRadical Mar 2016 #25

Here's Cenk of TYT getting in high dudgeon on this. longship Mar 2016 #13

Reporting on a CNN poll marions ghost Mar 2016 #15

BTW, the CNN poll mentioned in the OP. longship Mar 2016 #17

OK thx marions ghost Mar 2016 #18

No worries. longship Mar 2016 #19

I was just about to mention this TxDemChem Mar 2016 #55

This should be in billboards because voters need to see it. JudyM Mar 2016 #16

great, more motive for the DNC to "pull a Papen" and go easy on Trump MisterP Mar 2016 #20

That's the bottom line right there. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #21

Because they are bought and paid for by the Clinton machine. HoosierRadical Mar 2016 #27

That was a rhetorical question. They've made their motives clear. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #32

K & R! TIME TO PANIC Mar 2016 #22

No brainer on who we should pick... Helen Borg Mar 2016 #23

The only one that matters is how they do against Trump... Cruz and Rubio are done scheming daemons Mar 2016 #24

SO MUCH can (WILL) happen between now Plucketeer Mar 2016 #43

Cruz & Rubio are NOT necessarily done!! Herman4747 Mar 2016 #56

80-20? Stryder Mar 2016 #59

Neither are within the margin of error. longship Mar 2016 #64

Were these the same brilliant pollsters that had Romney beating Obama ONE WEEK before THAT election? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #26

who in their right mind Skittles Mar 2016 #34

Every political scientist worth their salt will tell you that 3% difference 8 months out is utterly Trust Buster Mar 2016 #37

yup Skittles Mar 2016 #38

What? JackRiddler Mar 2016 #45

No serious thinker would point to a 3% difference 8 months out as evidence of anything. Bottom line Trust Buster Mar 2016 #62

Serious thinkers read before they react. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #74

My post related to a claim made in the OP. It wasn't about you. I proudly stand by my post. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #81

Proudly! Thanks for a good laugh. JackRiddler Mar 2016 #100

Because I choose to stay on the thread topic. Your rude posts are not welcome. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #104

More projection from a would-be "serious thinker." JackRiddler Mar 2016 #106

Snore alert !!!! Trust Buster Mar 2016 #107

The corollary to this elljay Mar 2016 #92

What exactly was all that guff about Un-electability? Dis-information from a highly placed Rat? Ford_Prefect Mar 2016 #28

Ayup. AzDar Mar 2016 #29

Careful - don't confuse the cultists with the facts.... n/t laruemtt Mar 2016 #30

to which politician's cultists do you refer? Skittles Mar 2016 #39

well, HC supporters think their baseless suppositions about this and that trumps these polls stupidicus Mar 2016 #31

Don't worry cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #33

You say "electability is everything" but what about Hillary's resume? It ain't gonna pad itself. Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #35

Clinton should resign now and save America from a Trump presidency. SciDude Mar 2016 #36

Presidential elections are not won by popular vote. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #40

That's true, but so far Clinton's won mostly in "red states"-- Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #73

Between HRC and BS, it doesn't matter who wins red states vs blue states thesquanderer Mar 2016 #76

However, Clinton's very high "unfavorability" numbers make that prospect more likely... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #82

I agree with most of your points... but not the main one. thesquanderer Mar 2016 #94

Ed Schultz houston16revival Mar 2016 #41

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #42

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #44

K&R! FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #46

Clinton so far has mostly "won" states likely to go GOP or PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #47

Sanders vs Clinton on "favorability" are almost opposites... Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #75

Six of the 7 states just "won" by Clinton had GOP exceed Democratic turnout PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #77

If electability is everything then why is Berine losing in his "own" party? XRubicon Mar 2016 #48

This is a terrible zentrum Mar 2016 #50

I can't understand how Hillary polls below ALBliberal Mar 2016 #51

Hillary has zero qualifications greymouse Mar 2016 #57

"Electability is everything" is what they used to say pdsimdars Mar 2016 #52

And don't forget those polls about likeability and trustworthiness pdsimdars Mar 2016 #53

K & R Nyan Mar 2016 #54

This needs to be out there all day everyday Kenjie Mar 2016 #60

Apparently electability warrprayer Mar 2016 #61

We'll never know about that, Sanders won't be running against any of those republicans. George II Mar 2016 #65

Hillary Can't Motivate People For Voter Turnout billhicks76 Mar 2016 #66

I've added three more to my IL chervilant Mar 2016 #68

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard: Judge Clinton by her Actions, not just words; Hillary's poor judgement hillarysong2016 Mar 2016 #78

Defintely. Her actions show avaistheone1 Mar 2016 #87

"electability is everything" -- That'swhattheysaid; yep; that'swhattheysaid!!!! kristopher Mar 2016 #80

our party isn't acting sensibly at all in this. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #83

BERNIE SANDERS tops all three Republicans by wide margins . . . Triana Mar 2016 #84

Electability is not everything. Policy matters. Xipe Totec Mar 2016 #85

Seriously, Clinton supporters-- how do you explain your flip flop on this? Marr Mar 2016 #89

next of no focus on sanders by the righwing mean machine beachbum bob Mar 2016 #91

Oh I SO agree. bvar22 Mar 2016 #99

Guess what the funny thing about this is, though??? Gamecock Lefty Mar 2016 #93

Too bad Democrats don't have the guts to buck their party's establishment! Cosmic Dancer Mar 2016 #95

Meaningless. Darb Mar 2016 #96

ummm rtracey Mar 2016 #97

If he can't beat Hillary how could he do so good in the doc03 Mar 2016 #101

I'd call it a Cult of Personality...in complete denial about the salient facts. Familiarity libdem4life Mar 2016 #102

Do you ever wonder why the Republicans have barely doc03 Mar 2016 #103

I don't let the Republicans make up my mind. I use my own faculties. I have never trashed HRC. libdem4life Mar 2016 #108