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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Can someone explain to me the intersectionality between... [View all]Hortensis
(58,785 posts)115. Can't or won't? "Bernie or Bust" is obviously,
demonstrated by dozens of refusals to discuss, embarrassing to some. Yet not embarrassing enough to stand up and reject.
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Hey Janey, where's this Bernie or Bust campaign you speak of? is the the new meme for tomorrow?
litlbilly
Mar 2016
#4
"Like a circle in a spiral // Like a wheel within a wheel" -- Windmills of your mind
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#64
A riddle, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in a sort of croissanwich type deal.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#77
I first heard it in The Thomas Crowne Affair. Excellent soundtrack for an excellent movie.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#83
Oh we have all heard of it. We have a secret conclave with regularity, where we exchange
silvershadow
Mar 2016
#104
"A big part of reality is 3rd party perspective." -- I'd very much like to think that was
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#56
If you think your 'reasoning' corners Warrens in any way, you are sorely mistaken
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#60
Here, I actually thought maybe we could have an interesting discussion on metaphysics and semantics
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#66
I learned everything I needed to about the poster's intentions with this thread
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#68
saying that everything you can find on google is objectively real, isn't logic.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#63
What a strange post, and a stranger assumption still! Never have I said such a thing in this thread.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#81
This is GDP. It seemed apropos. For followup questions, please refer to post #71. Thanks.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#87
I don't like to toot my own horn (I'm not that flexible) but I am fairly well informed, as humans go
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#85
Just because it may "exist" somewhere, in someone's mind or thoughts, or even
silvershadow
Mar 2016
#105
I never espoused those opinions, I was explaining them to you. You asked a question in your OP...
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#26
Ah, I get it. It's a "mentality". is a "mentality" an actual thing? It's a deeper question than one
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#50
Maybe the problem is that you assume other people engage in "groupthink"
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#24
Because they know that if they say Bernie or Bust they'll be banned from DU for a TOS violation.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#28
You make the mistake in assuming they see Hillary as representing them on the issues, whatsoever.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#35
The question is one of perception, not whether you personally agree with that perception.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#42
Then you would be better off not arguing against the messenger who is simply relaying the ideas
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#49
what's "an actual movement"? Someone writes a petition? A couple people say something on facebook?
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#39
I've said it like fifty fucking times, now, not that I need to, because that's what I always do.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#38
You brought up "groupthink". I'm telling you that it's rampant, but maybe not where you think it is.
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#46
Thank you for bringing up the twin subjects of unemployment and incarceration side by side
hillarysong2016
Mar 2016
#106
The playbook that is nabbing more vote totals than any other candidate while...
JaneyVee
Mar 2016
#89
Yeah, who would think the inevitable and presumed front-runner might get more votes than the unknown
Warren DeMontague
Mar 2016
#90
Having a more diverse electorate and higher vote totals doesn't mean your ideas are better.
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#93
Tell Hillary she is wrong if she thinks we will unite just because she claims to be a Democrat.
Live and Learn
Mar 2016
#91
I would prefer just to let it be a surprise for them. They do not understand what
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#95
Roughly, some people have persuaded themselves that Clinton is not progressive
Recursion
Mar 2016
#101
And you equate abandoning progressivism with not voting straight democratic ticket?
JonLeibowitz
Mar 2016
#136
Clinton embodies everything that is wrong with our party. No, she can not unite us with her
RiverLover
Mar 2016
#114
well - I cannot think of a more effective project to help ANY RWer move their campaigns forward
DrDan
Mar 2016
#116
Thats your right and I respect that. Given the Choice between a Madman and a Corporate Operative
Katashi_itto
Mar 2016
#135