2016 Postmortem

mikehiggins

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236. Anyone who has a stake in the ways things are going today opposes Sanders

Thu Mar 3, 2016, 11:30 AM

Mar 2016

If you look at the list of endorsers, etc, lining up for HRC you see person after person and group after group who have vested interests in keeping this sham going.

Some, like Goldmine Sucks, have obvious interests in the status quo which makes it possible for them and other Wall Street HRC backer to destroy our (and the world's) economy. (If you haven't seen THE BIG SHORT yet what are you waiting for, and why?)

Senators and Congresscritters, Governors and DNC officials all have obvious stakes in keeping the game going. Others are afraid of the animosity the HRC camp shows towards anyone who doesn't toe their line. HRC opponents in Congress and State Houses can count on a really difficult time during the Third Clinton term. Obama supporters who think HRC is really going to continue his advances are due for a rude awakening.

They remind me of the South Pacific islanders who reportedly listened to Christian missionaries and decided the smart money was with Satan. Jesus, they figured, would forgive them for their choice; Satan never would. Me, I think that whole thing is a fantasy but love to use it as an analogy.

(no, potential alerters, I'm not calling HRC the Devil. I don't believe in the Devil

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Dear Bernie Supporters You've Had Your Fun. Now, Hillary Wants Your Support! [View all] sabrina 1 Mar 2016 OP

Clinton is the embodiment of everything I have been fighting AGAINST in politics. basselope Mar 2016 #1

Yes, War as a 'business opportunity' weak on torture, embedded with Wall St sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #6

wrong spot nt Javaman Mar 2016 #39

Yep. Pure Wall St., corporate, moneyed power. And war-mongering. senz Mar 2016 #64

.^that........ 840high Mar 2016 #72

Welcome back! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2016 #93

ok asuhornets Mar 2016 #98

Good to know. Enjoy President Trump basselope Mar 2016 #113

Then why r u here? n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #116

To make sure we don't make the mistake of trying to put a Clinton in office basselope Mar 2016 #119

+1 Bubzer Mar 2016 #134

Clinton is a Democrat ... Jackilope Mar 2016 #132

Great way to grow the Democratic Party All in it together Mar 2016 #137

Yea asuhornets Mar 2016 #139

How many times asuhornets Mar 2016 #143

Exactly timmymoff Mar 2016 #180

I don't consider the Clinton democrats. basselope Mar 2016 #165

+10000 Cavallo Mar 2016 #148

None of us understand it! Dustlawyer Mar 2016 #175

Unfortunately you are right. Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #186

The exact same words I used this morning ... earthside Mar 2016 #156

I am with you Onlooker Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #187

+1,000,000 dchill Mar 2016 #212

Plus One Billion cantbeserious Mar 2016 #215

You're against equality for women, African-Americans, Hispanic Americans, LGBT folk? Nitram Mar 2016 #221

You actually believe she is for these things? basselope Mar 2016 #233

I know she is for those things, and she has been for decades. Nitram Mar 2016 #234

I know she TALKS about some of these issues. basselope Mar 2016 #248

Her record? Have you even looked at her record of action on behalf of all the issues and groups... Nitram Mar 2016 #249

Yes, I have. woefully inadequate, which is why I could never support her. basselope Mar 2016 #257

OK I'll concede that you don't have a clue about the Clintons. Nitram Mar 2016 #259

The Clintons drove me from the democratic party. basselope Mar 2016 #260

Tea Party Democrats? LOL! Nitram Mar 2016 #261

They are the fringe basselope Mar 2016 #262

Are you familiar with the dreadful 'Welfare Reform Bill' she was so proud of, and what it did and sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #258

Check this out which maybe explains why Hillary is reaching out to Bernie supporters: sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #2

..... madfloridian Mar 2016 #4

Bernie is running a BRILLIANT campaign. He knew he could not do much in Confederate states and sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #5

Since she's hawking money from NRA and Goldman Sachs Lobbyists this week... KoKo Mar 2016 #13

I'm one of those that came out against the odds in a confederate state. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #136

Actually I was surprised at the last results I saw on Texas, he got 33% of the vote there, sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #138

The Democratic Party here really sucks. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #149

Didn't you say women and POC were running away from Clinton "in droves" just this Monday? bettyellen Mar 2016 #167

+1 rynestonecowboy Mar 2016 #191

what's Bernie's polling number for Louisana, Michigan, Mississippi, Florida, Illnois, Missouri... Javaman Mar 2016 #42

He's doing great in the next four states coming up in March. I don't have data on all of them sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #53

Went to the opening for Sanders campaign office lame54 Mar 2016 #69

Great news...Do you know KoKo Mar 2016 #99

That is great news. I have friends in NC who are Bernie supporters, AAs who have had it with sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #193

The data is- he needs VT/ NH like wins to stay in the race. He has not gained the women and POC bettyellen Mar 2016 #168

thank you, but I'll decide that for myself. nt Javaman Mar 2016 #178

You're welcome but I was replying to someone else's post. To yours? Sanders is lagging in all bettyellen Mar 2016 #182

Are these the same polls.... rynestonecowboy Mar 2016 #194

Nope, according to 538, it is way to early to poll for the GE. And Nate knows his stuff. bettyellen Mar 2016 #195

and again, I will decide that from myself. Javaman Mar 2016 #219

You realize I was replying to someone else- both times you responded to me? No need for you to bettyellen Mar 2016 #237

Then something is wrong with my inbox... Javaman Mar 2016 #241

Fair enough- But that is odd, because if you look at my replies they are not to you. Something bettyellen Mar 2016 #242

Nate knows his stuff Gwhittey Mar 2016 #220

Well, he has called all the races accurately so far, but whatever. bettyellen Mar 2016 #243

You really need to recheck your math. He only needs to win 54% of the remaining delegates. n/t ieoeja Mar 2016 #235

Our NC INDY WEEK publication came out for Hillary. Duval Mar 2016 #81

Indy recs marions ghost Mar 2016 #222

Wow. Now's the time to double down and make it happen. senz Mar 2016 #70

Yes We Can! sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #73

This needs to be posted EVERYWHERE! MelissaB Mar 2016 #144

Welcome back, Sabrina .... Trajan Mar 2016 #254

"Bill is sorry for calling you tea party lefties...really he is." n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #3

Apology not accepted. He sure is helping Bernie though. They haven't learned sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #9

Plenty of time to either enlighten or remind voters who Hillary Clinton REALLY is... AzDar Mar 2016 #7

I think her internal polls are telling her she cannot win without Bernie supporters so she's sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #8

Unfortunately, Sabrina, she seems to bring out the stupid in the Democratic party. n/t tom_kelly Mar 2016 #29

The media tries to compare Donald and Bernie Mike__M Mar 2016 #41

And the nasty. Never knew we had so many negative nasty people in our party until I witnessed sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #108

She can also asuhornets Mar 2016 #110

She claimed victory because she won 7 states and a territory...n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #101

Here's hoping Plucketeer Mar 2016 #135

Somebody didn't get the message. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #141

considering gunz have been her main antiBernie talking point of late I'm not surprised we're azurnoir Mar 2016 #16

If I have to, I'll hold my nose and vote for Clinton. ananda Mar 2016 #10

If she has your vote she has everything she wants from you and everybody else for that matter azurnoir Mar 2016 #19

And she's fine with that, since she'll never support you either. closeupready Mar 2016 #22

Your vote is like a one-night stand to HRC CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #49

Yep - I won't do it 840high Mar 2016 #77

+! platitudipus Mar 2016 #92

The worst part... Kittycat Mar 2016 #155

I'm sure she'll know instinctively that your vote doesn't come with support RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #83

I think we need to press her for something Ilsa Mar 2016 #150

She'll take it. bvf Mar 2016 #232

They called me and told me that as a Bernie follower, it was time to shift to reality. Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #11

I can't believe they're doing that, wow! Shameful tactics. And the arrogance and sense of entitlemen sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #56

Are you in one of the primary states that has already voted? PADemD Mar 2016 #95

I am in that bastion of enlightenment Scalded Nun Mar 2016 #181

A friend, who is black, got a call from Hank Aaron & Jesse jackson, 7962 Mar 2016 #197

Confederate States = States with lots of minorities. nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #12

More of that divisive nonsense. Sorry, but people are not going to involve themselves in Hiillary' sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #20

They've been trying since Iowa to paint Bernie as a racist and a sexist CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #68

And they're still trying. As they did in 2008. And FAILING again and refusing to listen to AAs sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #71

Explain New York, then. Gore1FL Mar 2016 #55

Actually, California is the state with huge numbers of minorities. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #87

Excellent post, thank you JD. The concocted race baiting is the MOST despicable tactic sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #240

Confederate States = States Dems won't win in the GE. n/t Goblinmonger Mar 2016 #90

Get a grip. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #145

Hilary supporters remind me of schoolyard LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #14

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #15

You joined yesterday and have 60 posts taught_me_patience Mar 2016 #104

Aren't you precious. nt malokvale77 Mar 2016 #146

Exactly! marew Mar 2016 #128

There is simply no reality in what you are selling. NCTraveler Mar 2016 #17

I'm sorry, but Bernie TROUNCED her in states she as a Dem should have won easily sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #26

Exactly malokvale77 Mar 2016 #147

$43 Million is a pretty deep number. :D Crabby Abbey Mar 2016 #27

thank you Sabrina florida08 Mar 2016 #18

See post #2 where I provided information you will find interesting. She only won states that sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #32

Immediately after Pigs fly... Thespian2 Mar 2016 #21

sabrina 1 , don't know what to say, you said it all !!! Except erlewyne Mar 2016 #23

Looking forward to the Ides of March also! sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #35

Hi Sabrina! warrprayer Mar 2016 #24

Thank you warrprayer. I am so psyched after Super Tuesday! sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #58

It was a great showing! warrprayer Mar 2016 #103

All power to the people. R#63 bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #25

Can't wait to vote for Bernie, here in Florida! djean111 Mar 2016 #28

I voted for him yesterday. 840high Mar 2016 #79

Lets talk again in June seaotter Mar 2016 #30

This message was self-deleted by its author charlespercydemocrat Mar 2016 #78

What is Bill offers you up an intern? seaotter Mar 2016 #80

If she says "Please" I may consider... PonyUp Mar 2016 #31

NO! Stop bullying! kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #33

Dear Hillary, the 90s are over, we can't be conned again into voting conservative. We want to vote Todays_Illusion Mar 2016 #34

She can't have mine....EVER! GO BERNIE! SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #36

She won't need it, BErnie is going to win this! sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #37

K&R TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #38

Subject lines like this.... AlbertCat Mar 2016 #40

Hillary's campaign and her supporters have displayed incredible arrogance from the day Bernie sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #48

No More Clintons EVER! SoapBox Mar 2016 #43

+1! n/t marew Mar 2016 #129

Just sent Bernie another $50!!! I want to help March be as good or better than February's FighttheFuture Mar 2016 #44

What's amazing is how Bernie managed to do this, to PROVE that a good candidate doesn't need Corp sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #61

Way to go. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #152

It is insulting. For her to get my support she'd have to prove she'd run as Progressive. Not likely highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #45

Hillary's campaign money is running low. She has a long way to go on super pac money. NCjack Mar 2016 #46

Hillary is a troubled candidate AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #47

KnR - excellent OP Sabrina1 nt 99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #50

Just Sent Bernie 100.00 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #51

Thank you Katashi_Itto for helping to finance the People's Campaign! I too will donate sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #66

My pleasure, down with DNC!!!! Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #115

You can say that again! Out with Debbie Wasserman Schultz, support Tim Canova, a Bernie Democrat sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #120

Thank you. Ilsa Mar 2016 #157

Nuts!. n/t Paper Roses Mar 2016 #52

Many reasons not to give it. revbones Mar 2016 #54

It's not that hard... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #159

K&R. JDPriestly Mar 2016 #57

lol.its the arrogance and entitlement. no thanks. elehhhhna Mar 2016 #59

Thanks, no thanks, I'm still having fun Boomer Mar 2016 #60

Lol, I've never had so much fun in a campaign in my life. Is she serious to ask us to STOP having sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #67

This is one time I will tell Bernie to take Hillary's advice. A Simple Game Mar 2016 #62

I remember that despicable comment. Will never forget it. sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #252

Fuck that. Fearless Mar 2016 #63

Succinct and expresses my sentiments exactly! sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #85

. Fearless Mar 2016 #96

She can get my support if and when she wins the nomination. It's not over until it's over. MillennialDem Mar 2016 #65

It hasn't even begun and she's way out of line to suggest it. sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #133

HuH... asuhornets Mar 2016 #74

She can't win the PRogressive vote, she won the Confederate states which will be won by sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #82

So let me get this straight asuhornets Mar 2016 #97

Sorry, but the facts show that everything I said is true. She is losing the base, she wins with sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #102

Yours word: asuhornets Mar 2016 #109

Wait, could you point me in the direction of the LAW that forbids a US Citizen from sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #111

The people u r referring to have not been asuhornets Mar 2016 #114

So, when Hillary switched from being a Republican in her twenties I believe, she had not been sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #117

Thank you sabrina 1. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #163

Sorry, I'm still pulling for Bernie. nt Duval Mar 2016 #75

Clinton vs trump is like Russian Roulette with a 6 shooter with 5 bullets in the chamber PatrynXX Mar 2016 #76

2 words- goldman sux pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #84

Sure does, nicely stated! sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #88

another 2 words. war pig. pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #91

You won't have to, Bernie is going to win this. The people are uniting behind him, Blacks Whites, sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #94

Nope... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #164

Sorry, Hill. CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #86

K&R -- everyone should see this OP. senz Mar 2016 #89

Kickin' this. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #100

I bet she'd like Bernie's donor base, too. Vinca Mar 2016 #105

She's running out of money, so yes, I'm sure that is part of her sudden 'love' for us. Mine just sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #107

Funny how "waiting until June" is suddenly no longer a valid strategy, now that she's ahead. arcane1 Mar 2016 #106

To nasty, arrogant, condescending Hilary... We say NO. kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #112

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #118

Even though I live below the poverty level Utopian Leftist Mar 2016 #121

What a lovely post. Thank you, thank you for making that sacrifice though I know Bernie sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #122

Thank you for the sacrifice - I know it's tough but Bernie is a once in a lifetime candidate Impedimentus Mar 2016 #174

not so much pdsimdars Mar 2016 #123

Beautiful picture in your post. Such a work of inspiration pdsimdars Mar 2016 #124

Solid Bernie Sanders supporter here, if and when Hilary wins, she will have my full support! DrewFlorida Mar 2016 #125

She isn't going to win, so you won't have to worry about it. She lost the Progressive vote sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #126

Actually, the thing that has caused the slow erosion of the situation for ordinary people.... DrewFlorida Mar 2016 #173

No, you are wrong and this is what has finally dawned on voters. WE played that game and enabled sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #177

You have the right to your opinion, even if I think it is arrogantly foolish and short sighted! DrewFlorida Mar 2016 #192

I used to share your opinion too and pushed people to 'hold your nose' because look at the sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #196

And because you don't feel needed, and don't get everything you wanted...... DrewFlorida Mar 2016 #255

Oh no, I guess you still think we are not the brightest people around. Do yourself a favor and try sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #256

They may insult Bernie and his supporters but... JPnoodleman Mar 2016 #127

People are not going to forget their Race and Gender Baiting. It's still going on so I guess sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #130

Tough shit... malokvale77 Mar 2016 #131

I AM having fun getting to know people like "We want our whole damn dollar!" Nina Turner!!! Agony Mar 2016 #140

Bernie's message will prevail. ozone_man Mar 2016 #142

She can kiss my ass d_b Mar 2016 #151

This Citizen Voted For A Clinton Twice - Never Again cantbeserious Mar 2016 #153

It's really unfortunate that she ran. CrispyQ Mar 2016 #154

They've been trying to lose our support ALL DAY LONG. senz Mar 2016 #158

And succeeding. Lol, I wonder if HILLARY lnows yet about Progressive Dems sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #161

This, this, this. malokvale77 Mar 2016 #172

It won't stop, that's all they know, it's all they have and it's HOW they are. The Third Way sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #179

Hillfolk would rather have a Republican in office than an actual Liberal Progressive Lorien Mar 2016 #160

If Democratic voters would have wanted Hillary Clinton to be President INdemo Mar 2016 #162

No! RATM435 Mar 2016 #166

Thank you for the powerful honest post. JEB Mar 2016 #169

Thank You Sabrina ! Impedimentus Mar 2016 #170

We're outta America's Dumb Zone now, so it's all clear for Bernie DrBulldog Mar 2016 #171

Hillary and Trump swept the Confederate states. I don't think that's a big help wrt sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #176

Tell her to release her transcripts humbled_opinion Mar 2016 #183

Bernie now tells supporters that beating Trump is the most important thing! bettyellen Mar 2016 #184

You have a point. To be honest my expectations were pretty low considering the mountains sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #198

HA! Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #185

I think I am going to full-ignore you for Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #188

Well Done Sabrina! You Rock! 2banon Mar 2016 #189

So do you, 2banon. Bernie has the coolest supporters. sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #202

Cheating in MA, Bullhorn Bill in MA.... MrMickeysMom Mar 2016 #190

I believe he did win in Mass and with the closeness of the end result, I hope his campaign asks sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #200

Yep, completely agree with this. Bassomar Mar 2016 #199

Wholehearted support for your position! Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #201

Speaking of Coattails Expats for Bernie have compiled a growing list of Bernie Democrats sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #203

Is there a link to that list please, if it isn't too much trouble? Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #204

Here you go: sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #205

Tim Canova is a gift that keeps on giving. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #206

You can't blame her for trying. kristopher Mar 2016 #207

Ditto -- King_Klonopin Mar 2016 #208

Lol billhicks76 Mar 2016 #209

No dice tblue Mar 2016 #210

It's Bernie or Bust !!! I will NEVER vote for Hillary, ever ! urbuddha Mar 2016 #211

Welcome to DU! So many newer people hating on Hillary. You better believe it. bettyellen Mar 2016 #239

the cesspool that you guys wallow in has sent Hillary supporters SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2016 #213

Veterans are solidly behind Bernie because of the work he has done on their behalf in Congress. sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #253

HRC Support - No Way - Voted Clinton Twice - Disappointed Both Times cantbeserious Mar 2016 #214

I must confess. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #216

Look at how little OkSustainAg Mar 2016 #217

The Democratic Party establishment sulphurdunn Mar 2016 #218

Since we're doing comparisons Amimnoch Mar 2016 #223

I have voted for the Democrat almost c-ville rook Mar 2016 #224

No. It's a "hold my nose" sort of thing for me. alarimer Mar 2016 #225

I'd sooner cut my hand off before allowing it to pull a lever for Hillary Clinton monicaangela Mar 2016 #226

K&R! nt raouldukelives Mar 2016 #227

Voting fo for Bernie in the Pennsylvania Primary. GoneOffShore Mar 2016 #228

No ebbie15644 Mar 2016 #229

There's an old saying, want in one hand... Autumn Mar 2016 #230

And the more they try to discourage us, the more they PROVE why we are sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #251

Confederate States? oberliner Mar 2016 #231

It is a demeaning, Shameful comment for Southern Dems no matter has you look at it. riversedge Mar 2016 #244

Agreed oberliner Mar 2016 #250

Anyone who has a stake in the ways things are going today opposes Sanders mikehiggins Mar 2016 #236

As someone who leans Clinton, please leave the Bernie people be. Chicago1980 Mar 2016 #238

Thank you. sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #246

A March 1st Poll From CNN DallasNE Mar 2016 #245

Thank you, he is indeed the Dems only chance of winning the GE. So why is the DNC trying to stop sabrina 1 Mar 2016 #247