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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary's policies turned Libya into a terrorist hell hole [View all]Cheese Sandwich
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I guess we didn't have a President or Congress then? She made the decisions all by herself. nt
Jitter65
Apr 2016
#203
Hillary was a leading proponent for intervening in Libya's Civil War, she persuaded Obama
Uncle Joe
Apr 2016
#207
"To my way of thinking there was something unPresidential with that kind of reaction....."
pablo_marmol
Apr 2016
#253
K&R. Warmongering is evil, killing the earth but making a whole lot of rich people wealthier.
appalachiablue
Apr 2016
#283
If it had been Bush talking about Saddam that way, EVERY DUer would be disgusted by it n/t
arcane1
Mar 2016
#81
A bayonet? I read shortly after it happened it was a gun and the person holding it pulled
Samantha
Apr 2016
#273
You know I just opened this topic again & I thought one of the replies was a Dick Cheney quote...
andrewv1
Mar 2016
#53
True....In the newest CNN Poll he beats Hillary barely but does win....Bernie?
andrewv1
Mar 2016
#133
It is because her motivation is based upon an alternative agenda than the one presented.
FlatBaroque
Mar 2016
#20
You spelled Benghazi wrong. You've got an extra 'n' in there: Benghanzi
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#11
Thanks! The article wasn't in text I could copy and paste so I had to transcribe it myself.
randome
Mar 2016
#14
What wars were taking place in the Mideast directly before the invasion of Iraq???
polly7
Mar 2016
#35
I'm not sure what you mean about what wars were taking place in the Mideast before Iraq.
randome
Mar 2016
#43
That's a lie. Qaddafi was not threatening a bloodbath. Pure, filthy propaganda. nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#47
Why did Bush have a 'coalition of the willing' to destroy Iraq? Come on, you can do it .... nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#52
Whatever you think of Clinton, I don't see how you can view her as equivalent to Bush, Jr.
randome
Mar 2016
#57
Are you claiming she was unaware of PNAC's agenda or the '7 countries in 5 years' plan
polly7
Mar 2016
#62
Being aware of PNAC and trying to stop a bloodbath in Libya can be two entirely different things.
randome
Mar 2016
#74
I don't give anyone a fucking benefit of a doubt when they're being advised by a PNAC
polly7
Mar 2016
#84
But Qaddafi truly WAS fighting the Arab Spring uprising and threatened a bloodbath.
randome
Mar 2016
#61
Did you think neocons were just here in THIS country? Lol, I think you're just kidding. The Western
sabrina 1
Mar 2016
#162
It's sad to think that can actually be how some people think of these things
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#172
On The Contrary, PNAC Founders Appointed by Clinton to High Positions in Her State Department
Justina For Justice
Mar 2016
#101
What freaks me out is people who think Qadaffi, Hussein, Assad, the Shah, the Taliban...
yallerdawg
Mar 2016
#83
Certainly she is. Especially given that she brought Victoria Nuland in as Assistant Secretary of
newthinking
Mar 2016
#58
Thanks so much, very interesting! I have to leave but will bookmark this for later. nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#109
polly7, I want to thank for educating me on Libya. Your info is invaluable!
Peace Patriot
Apr 2016
#232
And as all who knew about it say . . . she talked him into it. It was HER push.
pdsimdars
Mar 2016
#88
please do some reading and learn about HRC's leading role, and she took full credit in her emails
amborin
Apr 2016
#259
Those troubled by "horrible atrocities" apparently never visited this paradise when Ghadaffi ran it.
brooklynite
Mar 2016
#15
That sounds exactly like people who defend the Iraq invasion on the basis that Saddam was awful
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#17
And would have shrugged their shoulders, no doubt, when he delivered the promised 'bloodbath'.
randome
Mar 2016
#18
Qaddafi was a bad guy but the USA supports bad guys all over the world as long as they serve power
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#45
You're welcome, mine are just a small amount I'd kept in my journal. There were many, many great
polly7
Mar 2016
#114
Regime change and flooding weaponry does not do the people of those countries any favors
newthinking
Mar 2016
#65
It's true, she pushed for regime change in Syria and still is doing it.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#26
wiki leaks has an email wherein the state dept doesn't want Syrians to blame regime change
amborin
Mar 2016
#34
Qaddafi's 2nd son, Saif-al-Islam, was in line to succeed him. Saif is Western-educated, well-spoken
virgista
Mar 2016
#39
She was planning to run for president the whole time she was Sec of State.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#54
If you are an enemy of Israel, Hillary will bomb and destroy your country /
FlatBaroque
Mar 2016
#60
Hillary supporters keep posting lies and distortions of Bernie's history and positions
pdsimdars
Mar 2016
#76
The buck stops at the top. We Democrats do not refer to the Iraq War as "Powell's War".
Trust Buster
Mar 2016
#103
please read up, this is inaccurate; Amnesty In'l contradicts this; HRC pressured Obama to bomb & too
amborin
Apr 2016
#275
I think the main thing she was concerned with is: Did it increase arms sales in the region?
LiberalArkie
Mar 2016
#87
Let's not get carried away. It wasn't that great and was still a dictatorship
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#111
I am defending what he did for his people and tried to do for all of those in Africa.
polly7
Mar 2016
#132
OK I honestly don't know much about that, but my main point on that is that
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#134
You're the one with the conspiracy theories. Everything about all this was well-known years ago.
polly7
Mar 2016
#153
Yeah, the snippets of that, that the major news organizations offered, were eye opening at the time
Babel_17
Mar 2016
#176
Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President.
George II
Mar 2016
#108
So, let's understand this...A Candidate that has an almost 60% unfavorable rating with the public...
andrewv1
Mar 2016
#130
All that "unfavorable" BS and yet she's still 700+ delegates ahead with only about 600....
George II
Apr 2016
#212
When one goes into the voting booth, the choice is the two candidates by name/party, not....
George II
Apr 2016
#287
Chanting "scoreboard" does not answer the question why her negatives are so high.
tabasco
Apr 2016
#289
No one is chanting "scoreboard", in fact no one is even chanting and no one mentioned "scoreboard"
George II
Apr 2016
#290
Yes, those western funded and trained rebels .... things did get bad after that. nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#155
What happened to all the Libya cheerleaders here who attacked those of us who were
sabrina 1
Mar 2016
#159
They told us we were trying to deny the Libyan people the wonderful future of freeeeeedom
sabrina 1
Mar 2016
#163
She is a walking, talking, foreign policy disaster. But shhhhh... let's leave that to the
Skwmom
Mar 2016
#166
emails show she took full credit; she ignored advice of Biden & Gates not to bomb Libya;
amborin
Mar 2016
#167
Hillary was trying to beef up her presidential resume with a few bombings
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#169
In this case it turned out to be a huge disaster. A real human tragedy of epic proportions.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#184
Perhaps you can go pitch your Khadaffi Pity Party to the relatives of the Pan Am 103 bombing
Tarc
Apr 2016
#220
Hillary made the situation much much worse. The USA can't go around the world overthrowing dictators
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#189
She is itching for regime change in Syria, starting with a no fly zone to bait them into action.
AtomicKitten
Mar 2016
#196
Well, the destruction wrought by the Clintons and their terrible policies didn't stop at our shores.
Skwmom
Apr 2016
#202
How long until she admits to it being another "mistake" in her "foreign policy" experience resume?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2016
#221
Obama did not want to touch LIbya; HRC pressured Obama, against advice of Gates, Biden, etc.
amborin
Apr 2016
#224
Riddle ME this. Yet another illegal 'regime-change of a sovereign nation and its people
polly7
Apr 2016
#237
It's easy to criticize in retrospect. What would you do if the situation repeats in another country?
DetlefK
Apr 2016
#247
Why is it the US always seems to fund mass murdering dictators when they are serving the empire?
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#252
I cannot fail to note that you do not attempt to refute my "misrepresentation".
DetlefK
Apr 2016
#242
That laugh seems like something a psychopath would do, not a president or secretary of state.
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#251
"Everybody understands Gaddafi is a thug and murderer," Sanders said to Fox News. . . .
ucrdem
Apr 2016
#257
Hillary encouraged Obama to arm the rebels and take down the Libyan government
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#265
Condemning Gaddafi is not the same as advocating intervention to overthrow him
Fozzledick
Apr 2016
#272
condemn him, but that's not the same as saying: let's bomb Libya; HRC sold the Algeria regime
amborin
Apr 2016
#281
Cheese Sandwich, she's a woman and should get a free pass on the carnage she caused in Libya.
Skwmom
Apr 2016
#268
They keep saying 'most qualified' like we're hiring a manager for our restaurant or something
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#280
Didn't realize that the SOS had such massive powers. I guess Sanders better pick carefully, since
anotherproletariat
Apr 2016
#282
No but if read those 2 articles from the links in the OP you'll see Hillary was #1 in urging Obama
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#293
only by a huge stretch; she pressured Obama and went against everyone's advice: Gates, Biden, etc...
amborin
Apr 2016
#294
he delegated to her, and he was pressured, and acquiesced against his better judgement
amborin
Apr 2016
#300
It will not be possible to say that one of them is "guilty" while the other is not.
Orsino
Apr 2016
#305
But Hillary led the effort on this, took credit, and gave a mission accomplished speech in Libya
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#306
If this doesn't disqualify a person from being president, nothing does.
Cheese Sandwich
May 2016
#315