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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Report: Bernie Sanders proposes $15T in tax increases, hitting most taxpayers . [View all]Gothmog
(145,168 posts)87. I trust Prof Krugman on this
I trust Prof. Krugman on this http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/19/weakened-at-bernies/?_r=0
On health care: leave on one side the virtual impossibility of achieving single-payer. Beyond the politics, the Sanders plan isnt just lacking in detail; as Ezra Klein notes, it both promises more comprehensive coverage than Medicare or for that matter single-payer systems in other countries, and assumes huge cost savings that are at best unlikely given that kind of generosity. This lets Sanders claim that he could make it work with much lower middle-class taxes than would probably be needed in practice.
To be harsh but accurate: the Sanders health plan looks a little bit like a standard Republican tax-cut plan, which relies on fantasies about huge supply-side effects to make the numbers supposedly add up. Only a little bit: after all, this is a plan seeking to provide health care, not lavish windfalls on the rich and single-payer really does save money, whereas theres no evidence that tax cuts deliver growth. Still, its not the kind of brave truth-telling the Sanders campaign pitch might have led you to expect.
Again, as noted by Prof. Krugman this plan does not add up.
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Report: Bernie Sanders proposes $15T in tax increases, hitting most taxpayers . [View all]
JaneyVee
Mar 2016
OP
No mention on savings on healthcare. But the word "tax" is an effective boogeyman.
drokhole
Mar 2016
#4
The ONLY tax that middle class Americans will see an increase in is for healthcare.
jillan
Mar 2016
#22
Oh Janey - I have provided you with the response to that letter already from other economists that
jillan
Mar 2016
#40
If nothing else, he might be able to defuse some of the distortions about single payer
Armstead
Mar 2016
#36
Doesn't the middle class make out better in this deal net wise factoring in healthcare, college, etc
EndElectoral
Mar 2016
#18
With me it is getting rid of the insurance companies. I care for someone that has complex
jillan
Mar 2016
#24
Everyone's Health Care Premiums will go to ZERO, more than making up for any tax increase. n/t
yodermon
Mar 2016
#31
It's a recipe for failure. (ie: Super-majorities in both houses of Congress.)
NurseJackie
Mar 2016
#80
Only if we eventually change to single payer, reducing our medical insurance payments accordingly.
raging moderate
Mar 2016
#53
But they would get so much more in return by way of free college tuition and free healthcare...
Jitter65
Mar 2016
#67
The funniest part about these threads is Democrats pretending to not understand anything about taxes
Nanjeanne
Mar 2016
#68
My working stiff taxes will go up $100. My healthcare costs will go down by $15,000
Doctor_J
Mar 2016
#71
I seem to remember the last presidential candidate that ran on raising taxes
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Mar 2016
#86