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Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
10. No, Clinton was lying.... again.
Wed Mar 9, 2016, 11:32 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie always supported the auto bail out. You can spin it if you want but that doesn't change things.


There is a week to beat Clinton over the head with this in Ohio. She better strap on a hard hat and take some aspirin.



http://www.thenation.com/article/democrats-who-voted-against-tarp-funds-say-it-wasnt-about-the-auto-bailouts/

^snip^

Sanders objected strenuously to the charge, and said Monday that Clinton “went out of her way to mischaracterize my history.” He said his vote against releasing the TARP funds was based on opposition to the Wall Street bailout and how it was conducted, and pointed to an earlier vote in December 2008 in which he supported direct help for the automotive industry.

Eight Democratic senators voted the same way as Sanders that day, and three—Jeanne Shaheen, Maria Cantwell, and Ron Wyden—are still in office.
When The Nation reached out to each senator on Monday, both Cantwell’s and Wyden’s offices pushed back on the idea that their vote was “against” saving the auto industry, and echoed Sanders’s broader concerns about what was happening at the time with TARP money. Shaheen’s office did not reply to several requests for comment.

“Sen. Wyden opposed TARP because it failed to provide strong consequences for managers and equity owners of failing firms,” said Keith Chu, a spokesman for the Oregon lawmaker. “In his view, the best way to prevent future bailouts was to ensure those who carried out reckless business practices and those who profited from them paid a high price for destabilizing the US economy.”







You got it! yallerdawg Mar 2016 #1
I actually hopes she hammers this point home in tonight's debate kennetha Mar 2016 #3
K & R Nonhlanhla Mar 2016 #2
The UAW disagrees with you Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #4
The UAW disagrees with my analysis of Hillary's real point? kennetha Mar 2016 #6
See reply #7 Omaha Steve Mar 2016 #13
Do you know who Neil Barofsky is and why his opinion should matter? think Mar 2016 #5
He's a mixed bag kennetha Mar 2016 #20
Go on.... think Mar 2016 #25
NO. There were other ways to deal with the big banks going belly up. Avalux Mar 2016 #7
There are always logically possible alternatives kennetha Mar 2016 #8
If Tarp had been voted down what do you think would have happened? If if was so vitally important PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #11
Choosing extremely flawed legislation like TARP over trying to find GOOD solutions to huge problems think Mar 2016 #17
you'd prefer a depression? kennetha Mar 2016 #19
No. I prefer that better legislation passed. And it could have had Democrats pushed for it. think Mar 2016 #24
The "real world" is a fucked up place last I checked ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #28
And again you miss the real fallout from Clinton's point. It caused people to discuss PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #9
x 100000 AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #42
No, Clinton was lying.... again. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #10
you are not refuting my point kennetha Mar 2016 #12
Your point has no foundation. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #14
It was the only answer on the floor that was going to pass kennetha Mar 2016 #15
I think they should have been allowed to fail because depositors were protected. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #16
Ok, you get a cookie for winning the word parsing game ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #30
Out of balance zipplewrath Mar 2016 #43
Was going to respond to this mischaracterized nonsense, but the Michigan voters already have. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #18
Hillary claimed Bernie OPPOSED the auto bailout which was a LIE. No parsing of words changes that. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #21
Actually that's not at all what she said. she was quite precise in her language. kennetha Mar 2016 #27
From her own big mouth: AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #29
He vote against the money that ended up saving the Auto INdustry kennetha Mar 2016 #31
SHE SAID VERBATIM "HE WAS AGAINST THE AUTO BAILOUT" - THAT WAS A LIE. AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #32
it was flat out true kennetha Mar 2016 #34
you are flat out lying to try to cover her butt for lying AtomicKitten Mar 2016 #40
Real thinking Americans understand what Bernie did ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #22
What Sanders did was no different than what MOST DEMOCRATS DID in 2008 Armstead Mar 2016 #23
But the democrats -- most of them anyway kennetha Mar 2016 #26
I agree with you when you say most Dems ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #33
This is like Gwhittey Mar 2016 #35
Here's what lost Michigan for her: Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #36
Probably Republicans voting for Sanders kennetha Mar 2016 #37
What "lost" Michigan for Hillary is more people agree ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #41
seriously doubt that kennetha Mar 2016 #44
Exactly. She lost all credibility with that line of attack ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #39
yes Bernie is a fraud. kennetha Mar 2016 #45
Yes. I'd double down on that attack. It obviously worked really well in Michigan. DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #38
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