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In reply to the discussion: So Hillary supporters want us to believe she led on health care while Bernie was silent? Ahem: [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)73. The truth? You mean how she $old us out for MILLIONS from the for-profit health care industry?
Hillary Clintons Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees
Hillary Clintons sudden attack on Bernie Sanders single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible not that it is a bad idea.
Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen.
That was certainly Clintons position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill.
But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry.
![](https://prod01-cdn07.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2016/01/Screen-Shot-2016-01-16-at-2.45.16-PM-1000x939.png)
Source: Public federal disclosures, Clinton campaign
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/
Hillary Clintons sudden attack on Bernie Sanders single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible not that it is a bad idea.
Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen.
That was certainly Clintons position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill.
But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry.
![](https://prod01-cdn07.cdn.firstlook.org/wp-uploads/sites/1/2016/01/Screen-Shot-2016-01-16-at-2.45.16-PM-1000x939.png)
Source: Public federal disclosures, Clinton campaign
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/
Democratic Debate 2015: Hillary Clintons Enemies In Pharmaceutical and Insurance Industries Have Supported Her Campaigns, Foundation
In 2008, Clinton was the among the three biggest recipients of campaign cash from pharmaceutical-related companies, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. In all, the watchdog group reports that she raised $738,000 from employees of pharmaceutical manufacturers and companies classified as Pharmaceuticals /Health Products. The center reports that Clinton also raised more than $1.2 million from the insurance industry -- which includes health insurers.
On top of those campaign contributions, the Clintons and their family foundation have benefited from their ties to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.
In 2011, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) -- the primary trade association representing drug companies -- paid Bill Clinton $200,000 for a speech, as the organization was lobbying the Hillary Clinton-led State Department. Last year, the Drug Chemical and Associated Technologies Association, a trade group whose members include major pharmaceutical companies, paid her a $250,000 speaking fee.
Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation has received between $1 million and $5 million worth of donations separately from drug manufacturers Pfizer and Procter & Gamble, and from health insurers Humana and Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina. Some of those companies made donations as recently as this year, according to the foundations website.
That largesse was part of a friendship forged after those industries opposed her 1993 health care initiative -- and which continued after she won reelection to the Senate in 2006.
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/democratic-debate-2015-hillary-clintons-enemies-pharmaceutical-insurance
In 2008, Clinton was the among the three biggest recipients of campaign cash from pharmaceutical-related companies, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. In all, the watchdog group reports that she raised $738,000 from employees of pharmaceutical manufacturers and companies classified as Pharmaceuticals /Health Products. The center reports that Clinton also raised more than $1.2 million from the insurance industry -- which includes health insurers.
On top of those campaign contributions, the Clintons and their family foundation have benefited from their ties to the pharmaceutical and insurance industries.
In 2011, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) -- the primary trade association representing drug companies -- paid Bill Clinton $200,000 for a speech, as the organization was lobbying the Hillary Clinton-led State Department. Last year, the Drug Chemical and Associated Technologies Association, a trade group whose members include major pharmaceutical companies, paid her a $250,000 speaking fee.
Meanwhile, the Clinton Foundation has received between $1 million and $5 million worth of donations separately from drug manufacturers Pfizer and Procter & Gamble, and from health insurers Humana and Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina. Some of those companies made donations as recently as this year, according to the foundations website.
That largesse was part of a friendship forged after those industries opposed her 1993 health care initiative -- and which continued after she won reelection to the Senate in 2006.
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/democratic-debate-2015-hillary-clintons-enemies-pharmaceutical-insurance
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So Hillary supporters want us to believe she led on health care while Bernie was silent? Ahem: [View all]
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
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Which is probably why 90% of the millennials are with Bernie. They know the truth.
reformist2
Mar 2016
#15
It's a much better system and the only reason the Dems don't get behind it is....
Armstead
Mar 2016
#23
Great, so why can't he get it done in Vermont, and what makes you think he could pass it nationally?
ucrdem
Mar 2016
#59
Because Bernie is a US SENATOR, that's why he introduced legislation in the US Senate.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#63
So why hasn't the Hilary exceeded Bernie then? Where are her glorious Healthcare accomplishments?
Katashi_itto
Mar 2016
#78
I think so, then a photo surfaced where she thanked him for supporting universal health care.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#10
They are pissed off because he wants everyone to have healthcare, while she wants everyone to pay
Doctor_J
Mar 2016
#11
Did you watch the video? He LED on the issue for decades. Is the new meme, Bernie is too quiet?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#24
I really can't keep track of all the allegations that float around this place
giftedgirl77
Mar 2016
#98
THis is all a bit over the top ... poster said it was a sarcastic joke made out of boredom ...
brett_jv
Mar 2016
#157
That video with Sanders arguing for health-care was from 1993. Did Clinton miss that? nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#44
He did, and she didn't seem to give much of a rat's ass - it's 'totally un-doable' now.
polly7
Mar 2016
#54
By tomorrow she may hold a position better than Medicare for all and not only is it Doable
Dragonfli
Mar 2016
#136
That was the real fight, not posing for photo ops as first lady then giving up after she failed.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#58
The truth? You mean how she $old us out for MILLIONS from the for-profit health care industry?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#73
Wouldn't know... Hillary and her staunch supporters don't give us the truth. n/t
cui bono
Mar 2016
#130
I am so tired of the same old propaganda and wrong thinking. I want Bernie!!!!
highprincipleswork
Mar 2016
#83
We don't have to share our candidate with the trillion dollar for-profit health care industry.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#94
Well, not to myself. There are a whole lot of others who agree. Have you seen this video?
highprincipleswork
Mar 2016
#111
This is one of those days when Hillary makes the thought of holding my nose and voting her difficult
Jack Rabbit
Mar 2016
#97
Wait, wut? The truth is now "Hillary Hate"? And you would actually support Trump?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#108
How is this thread hating on Hillary? Does the truth have an anti-Hillary bias?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#146
Hillary is the one lying about Bernie. How is calling her out on her lies hating on Hillary?
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2016
#114
I've been voting since 1968, Independent, then Democrat, necessary to have a voice in PA primaries.
maddiemom
Mar 2016
#145
You would actually support Trump before say Jill Stein? That says a lot.
liberal_at_heart
Mar 2016
#115
Not only did I read it twice I just cited info you conveniently left out.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#122
What on earth are you going on about? Bernie hasn't said a word about her lies.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#125
I don't need to look up your history, you just blamed Bernie, remember?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#127
Why did you blame Bernie at all when he didn't do what you accused him of?
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#133