2016 Postmortem

Hoyt

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89. That's called Nationalism. We will be a poor country trading among ourselves, not to mention

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Krugman Raises White Flag on Trade, admits his “free-trade” cheerleading was mostly garbage [View all] Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 OP

in today's ny times, Jared Bernstein has op ed about all the negative effects of free trade: amborin Mar 2016 #1

Clinton trade deal is the real reason US health care is so thoroughly broken- Baobab Mar 2016 #14

this would be a great OP amborin Mar 2016 #20

yes +1 840high Mar 2016 #75

Definitely...... daleanime Mar 2016 #34

Thanks for posting this Ruby the Liberal Mar 2016 #70

Thanks for the Jared Bernstein article. It really should be an OP. hedda_foil Mar 2016 #81

No Shit! " “free trade” globalization was mostly garbage." How can he say that while we rhett o rick Mar 2016 #2

Good Article to lay on the DLC, Third Way "Dems" here that have been defending it Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #35

No amount of proof will shake their loyalty. The reason they refuse to discuss positions on rhett o rick Mar 2016 #69

Money - i.e. the revolving door.. Baobab Mar 2016 #71

Utterly DESPICABLE. Lives, livelihoods, entire industries and communities destroyed by these LIARS. AzDar Mar 2016 #3

a nobel, a big salary, dinner with the big shots, he sold out to his ego roguevalley Mar 2016 #39

K&R Jefferson23 Mar 2016 #4

"free trade" is definitely crap. Triana Mar 2016 #5

There's really no such thing as "free trade" TexasBushwhacker Mar 2016 #82

+1 n/t Triana Mar 2016 #83

There were people who said this in the 80s when Reagan and Bush Jarqui Mar 2016 #6

My first vote was for Perot and not Clinton, I will vote for Ahole Trump in order to bonniebgood Mar 2016 #96

.... 99Forever Mar 2016 #7

Krugman is another 'He Who Can't Ever Be Criticized" so this is a shocker!1 (not) m-lekktor Mar 2016 #8

yep. Phlem Mar 2016 #100

I have learned, over the past 12 to 15 years, to trust absolutely nothing that comes from FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #9

No harm , no foul ..... TheFarS1de Mar 2016 #10

Nate Silver - buh bye, Krugman - so long. I love this election cycle. / FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #11

Are you 99% sure about that? villager Mar 2016 #53

within one standard deviation. FlatBaroque Mar 2016 #56

ha! Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #92

it's crazy, right? Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #93

And when will he disavow Clinton and her "golden standard" for the TPP Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #12

Their misguided arrogence goes a lot farther Armstead Mar 2016 #13

Their whole game is selling horrible policies to benefit the 1% and then saying oops 20 years later Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #16

Correction.... Armstead Mar 2016 #17

Too late for all those lost jobs in Michigan, eh, Mr. Krugman? Raster Mar 2016 #15

Day late and Dollar short, Mr. Dumbass. SoapBox Mar 2016 #18

K&R Thank for posting Mbrow Mar 2016 #19

I disagree with this author's critique of Krugman's article. ieoeja Mar 2016 #21

Exactly. spooky3 Mar 2016 #72

Yeah, the author is projecting zipplewrath Mar 2016 #102

But of course it's the way it was handled. It's always the way it's handled. Those objecting are rhett o rick Mar 2016 #106

lol i remember when I was being lectured to give respect to Krugman by some DUers... nt retrowire Mar 2016 #22

Quite frankly...I dunno what "FREE trade" is. Does it even exist? AlbertCat Mar 2016 #23

I hate it when some blogger can't read. Krugman: "Mr. Sanders is demagoguing the issue." Hoyt Mar 2016 #24

It was wrong to exacerbate existing problems by forcing "free trade" on us Armstead Mar 2016 #27

I think if we can partnership with other nations, we are a stronger country and world. Isolating Hoyt Mar 2016 #30

No one is talking about "isolating" the US Armstead Mar 2016 #32

Will be glad to hear what Sanders says is the right way when he stops ranting and gets down to facts Hoyt Mar 2016 #37

This is a position paper of the Progressive Caucus Armstead Mar 2016 #42

So what is he going to do with all the ones we already have? Even the ones pending. Oh, well, Hoyt Mar 2016 #48

Okay I give up Armstead Mar 2016 #63

So how do you like chapter 11 of NAFTA? senz Mar 2016 #87

Bernie Sanders doesn't "rant." He talks in facts. Guess you've never heard him. senz Mar 2016 #86

worn out either/or neoliberal false meme meant to scare and confuse - cut it out! Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #40

Sorry, we've taken more than our share of the world's wealth and resources to up and leave the game. Hoyt Mar 2016 #41

no one ever said it would be easy... nor impossible. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #45

The platitudes are killing me. Hoyt Mar 2016 #46

We need trade, but we do not need the trade agreements that prevent us from JDPriestly Mar 2016 #54

Who do you think you're kidding with that nonsense? Marr Mar 2016 #77

Excellent response Populist_Prole Mar 2016 #88

That's called Nationalism. We will be a poor country trading among ourselves, not to mention Hoyt Mar 2016 #89

Economic colonialism is not about altruism. People aren't nearly as moronic as you Marr Mar 2016 #97

And if you think Willoam Greider is a "blogger" you don't know shit Armstead Mar 2016 #31

Don't care who he is if he can't read/comprehend. I guess his audience must be pretty dense. Hoyt Mar 2016 #33

If you had happened to come across his writings outside the campaign framework... Armstead Mar 2016 #36

What Credibility? What Standing? n2doc Mar 2016 #64

Are you calling William Greider "some blogger?" senz Mar 2016 #85

"some blogger"... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #104

"economic orthodoxy in collapse" Jack Rabbit Mar 2016 #25

+1000000. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #58

Wm Greider is one of the most honest and lucid writers ever! Mr. Krugman bbgrunt Mar 2016 #26

Yes! He was calling bullshit from way back. Krugman is a dwarf compared to him. Armstead Mar 2016 #29

Yet, he doesn't get essence of what Krugman said, including, "Mr. Sanders is demagoguing the issue." Hoyt Mar 2016 #52

This is a very good piece about what America is when it comes to being a non-sovereign country..... turbinetree Mar 2016 #28

' economic orthodoxy in collapse.' elleng Mar 2016 #38

At least 86derps Mar 2016 #43

There is no greater violence than poverty. Jemmons Mar 2016 #44

Thank you - There is no greater violence than poverty. Have jwirr Mar 2016 #61

And the past 20 years have seen the largest reduction in global poverty in history Recursion Mar 2016 #73

Yes, but in no way, shape or form thanks to economists who are trained to obfuscate the realities Jemmons Mar 2016 #95

I'm so tired of people 'making mistakes", "misspeaking" etc. Most of us know what it really was. nt cyberpj Mar 2016 #47

This makes me so sad, for what might have been had he told the truth sooner. Octafish Mar 2016 #49

I hope he raises the white flag on Hillary next. Broward Mar 2016 #50

I've never found him mean-spirited, but its good to find an economist admitting error bhikkhu Mar 2016 #51

This could be a rare case of truth seeking and soul searching. But isnt it a lot more likely that he Jemmons Mar 2016 #59

Oh, please He just realizes Americans aren't buying his b.s. any longer. There were plenty of Skwmom Mar 2016 #55

That's it exactly, I believe Populist_Prole Mar 2016 #57

They have been pushing the TPP. Who in the hell does he think he is fooling? Skwmom Mar 2016 #65

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Thank you, Cheese Sandwich! Enthusiast Mar 2016 #60

The more apt term for "free trade" is Pay-to-Play. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #62

That's about the size of it. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2016 #66

Why isn't it called FAIR Trade? Peace Patriot Mar 2016 #67

I hope he admits his pro-Clinton campaigns against Obama's supporters and Bernie's supporters are bs merrily Mar 2016 #68

"...a meaningful indicator of economic orthodoxy in collapse." Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #74

What a complete rewriting of what Krugman actually wrote ..completely laughable response to butthurt pkdu Mar 2016 #76

Banish Krugman To Working At A 7-11 For Minimum Wage Till He Is 90 scottie55 Mar 2016 #78

Of course, this will go in to his permanent record. Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #79

The article takes the Krugman quote out of context. The Nation article is lying. Buzz cook Mar 2016 #80

It's what happens when one refuses to accept GREED and FRAUD into their models. nt OnyxCollie Mar 2016 #84

I'll probably be roasted here, but I feel globalization is great, but has been horribly mishandled. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #90

Sorry zipplewrath Mar 2016 #107

Krugman: Trade and Tribulation BlueStateLib Mar 2016 #91

Good job, Cheese! I love PK but never cared for his Nobel Prize Award winning thoughts on trade WhaTHellsgoingonhere Mar 2016 #94

I call BS! Anyone whoe saw a white flag in that column has reading comprehension problems. Nitram Mar 2016 #98

Free Trade is complete BS Phlem Mar 2016 #99

Doubt he's going to be a champion for the little guy. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #101

I will no longer defend Paul. He is yoyo. saidsimplesimon Mar 2016 #103

Same here. Krugman disappointed me. snowy owl Mar 2016 #105