2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary's policies turned Libya into a terrorist hell hole [View all]Aerows
(39,961 posts)with someone that is completely unreasonable in their defense of the Pentagon and every choice that has ever been made militarily and that our government has executed.
If you asked if invading Iraq was wrong, you will get some hems and haws, but ultimately, you will *never* get a yes or no answer.
You are asking, blatantly, if the toppling of the Libyan was a positive for the Libyan people, and you are getting a full-throated yes without the individual having to admit that is exactly what they are saying.
No nuance, no amount of suffering endured, no examples of consequences will get them to arrive at even "well maybe that wasn't a good idea."
I know, I've tried.
I would go so far as to say if you asked that individual point-blank if the torture of prisoners is wrong, you will get a dissertation about what torture is, the definition of is, "is", but you will NEVER get a yes or a no.
Draw your own conclusions as to why that is, "is"