2016 Postmortem

Ghost Dog

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68. No surrender.

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:51 PM

Mar 2016

Did you know there's a tsunami of environmental and therefore social catastrophe fast heading our way, and that that's not a priority for your candidate?

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So if Clinton didn't send or receive classified info from her email account, [View all] B2G Mar 2016 OP

very good question. nt snagglepuss Mar 2016 #1

She already has spoken to that. Common sense would dictate that classified issues Trust Buster Mar 2016 #2

Did it ever occur to you that maybe people just want to get the truth? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #9

As a neutral referee I am compelled to admit Trust Buster made the more cogent argument... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #12

"As a neutral referee"... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #61

LOL bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #77

A "neutral referee" should probably disclaim they are "proud" Hillary Clinton won their state PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #98

LOL. whow--you hit it spot on riversedge Mar 2016 #127

I think you value Sanders being the nominee more than you truly care about emails. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #17

Cui bono is more than a Latin phrase. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #21

Neither could you. 840high Mar 2016 #88

Nothing transparent about DemocratSinceBirth DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #92

Anyway, Truth does not matter in this context, you assert. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #30

The truth is she exercised less than stellar judgment. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #31

Ah, I should have tried that one when I got busted for DUI Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #36

You intentionally violated the law DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #60

So, it would appear from the evidence, did Ms. Clinton. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #64

Please cite the appropriate statutes. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #65

I'll leave that job to the professionals. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #66

I accept your surrender with the grace it was made. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #67

No surrender. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #68

What was this? DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #69

Not "game over", DemocratSinceBirth. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #70

I can only speak for my country but we don't imprison people for less than stellar judgment. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #71

18 USC 793 (e) and (f) Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #100

I will defer to the former Democratic chief counsel to the House Judiciary Committee... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #102

"with intent or reason to believe" is the Statute's language, Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #107

I will defer to Julian Epstein. He is specifically referring to 18 U.S. Code § 793 here: DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #108

Caesar non supra grammaticos. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #109

Let's have some skin in the game... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #110

No way. DU, I'm sure, would not like to lose you, honorable sir. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #111

My offer was made voluntarily and in good will... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #112

Good. n/t. Ghost Dog Mar 2016 #114

Dont believe it he will just move goalposts and claim he didnt lose SwampG8r Mar 2016 #139

Ah, One Admits to Hillary Using LESS Than Stellar Judgement Here... This Is A Hallmark CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #134

You are in denial or something. I read a number of detailed articles about the "email" thing. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #74

For Sale tk2kewl Mar 2016 #44

SOS doesn't respond to e-mails its outside protocols. She even chastised Ambassadors for trying to. Historic NY Mar 2016 #82

"Common sense would dictate" - but Clinton already indicated she didn't use common sense... PoliticAverse Mar 2016 #97

Email! Benghazi! nt LexVegas Mar 2016 #3

Hillary said she rarely used email, and not for classified communication. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #4

Well the volume of emails on her server negate that, and B2G Mar 2016 #6

Your logic eludes me. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #8

I have a QUESTION, not an agenda. B2G Mar 2016 #11

Yes, I answered your question. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #33

No, you did not. B2G Mar 2016 #35

I think maybe it's YOUR logic that eluded YOU. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #14

Once again, as a neutral referee, I must give this round to your opponent. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #29

I would suggest you retread the post to which you are replying. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #54

U are correct and making some very good points 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #25

Actually Hillary has said she is dependent on email. Especially after her Senate campaign NWCorona Mar 2016 #7

Jon Stewart did a good job of debunking this "un-tech savvy" claim obamneycare Mar 2016 #46

You do realize this is comedy, right? MoonRiver Mar 2016 #63

What I realize, is that the piece contains a clip of Clinton in her own words, obamneycare Mar 2016 #75

"Owning" something does not necessarily equate with expertise when using it. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #96

if she said that, she was lying. nt grasswire Mar 2016 #85

Gee - FBI has 150 840high Mar 2016 #89

And then she refused to release thousands of private communications between her and Bill. Kalidurga Mar 2016 #91

she did send and receive information that was classified magical thyme Mar 2016 #5

Yes, I understand all of that. B2G Mar 2016 #10

Certainly, Clinton MUST have sent SOME email that was classified demwing Mar 2016 #41

Thank you. Not many seem to be getting the question. B2G Mar 2016 #43

It's an excellent question demwing Mar 2016 #45

How old are you? gwheezie Mar 2016 #83

Classified info can be transmitted electronically B2G Mar 2016 #101

So how was classified info passed on prior to email gwheezie Mar 2016 #103

Yes, via secure government systems. B2G Mar 2016 #105

Isn't the server a different issue than the emails? gwheezie Mar 2016 #115

Since the emails reside on the server B2G Mar 2016 #118

She probably did not. Classified information is rarely transmitted via email. Empowerer Mar 2016 #117

There are various designations B2G Mar 2016 #119

I didn't say it can't be or never is transmitted electronically. My point is that there are many Empowerer Mar 2016 #121

it wasn't marked when she received it. but Sid sent her top secret/signal intel magical thyme Mar 2016 #42

You're missing the point demwing Mar 2016 #125

Intelligence classified but also previously reported quiller4 Mar 2016 #132

verbatim satellite intelligence. nt magical thyme Mar 2016 #133

Must have been chervilant Mar 2016 #79

Comey is very close to it because its high profile political makes it especially sensitive. HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #15

Best answer. H2O Man Mar 2016 #22

This is quite a whopper of a lie. Clinton did not at anytime transmit classified material Tarc Mar 2016 #23

Then how did she get classified information, if not via email? B2G Mar 2016 #24

Classified after the fact Tarc Mar 2016 #26

Are you suggesting that during her 4 year tenure at State, B2G Mar 2016 #28

If you have questions regarding how the government transmits classified data Tarc Mar 2016 #73

It must be nice to live somewhere where everthing you don't agree with revbones Mar 2016 #47

Classified after the fact is irrelevant Beowulf Mar 2016 #129

It is not at all irrelevant Tarc Mar 2016 #130

I can't tell if you are being disingenuous, naive, or stupid. Beowulf Mar 2016 #131

Actually there is evidence that she had her staffer remove berni_mccoy Mar 2016 #32

Actually, there isn't, but you can keep on trying Tarc Mar 2016 #72

all correct grasswire Mar 2016 #86

Agreed. mmonk Mar 2016 #93

She couldn't have digitally NWCorona Mar 2016 #13

My suggestion . . .she drops out, Bernie gives a full pardon, save the country from this mess. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #16

My suggestion... Bernie drop out, write a book, and enjoy a well earned retirement DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #18

Unfortunately, Sanders is not currently under investigation noiretextatique Mar 2016 #37

Good thing you're a neutral referee. nt Qutzupalotl Mar 2016 #56

Everybody Drink!!!!! JoePhilly Mar 2016 #19

One would think UglyGreed Mar 2016 #20

One would also think B2G Mar 2016 #27

BENGHAZI!!!!!! Dem2 Mar 2016 #34

FBI...not a congressional hearing noiretextatique Mar 2016 #40

It's called due dilligence Dem2 Mar 2016 #59

you have a crystal ball? noiretextatique Mar 2016 #99

It has been leaked that the investigation will end in May. MoonRiver Mar 2016 #106

jftr - classified info can not be sent or received through DURHAM D Mar 2016 #38

I think they can be B2G Mar 2016 #51

Not going to review that garble but it has DURHAM D Mar 2016 #52

Secure phone and secure fax. DCBob Mar 2016 #39

Hence her emails to staff telling them to strip the headers revbones Mar 2016 #48

Because that message was perhaps not actually classified.. DCBob Mar 2016 #49

Wow. When you untwist yourself from the pretzels revbones Mar 2016 #50

You appear to be the one desperately twisting this into some sort of outrageous scandal.. DCBob Mar 2016 #53

Sure. You guys are so desperate to defend her against any of her wrong-doings revbones Mar 2016 #57

deep down, they know it's real... grasswire Mar 2016 #87

This fake scandal is the least of my worries. DCBob Mar 2016 #94

Ben Gawzi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! leftofcool Mar 2016 #55

Posts like this just make you look bad and immature. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #62

That is her main goal! Nt Logical Mar 2016 #76

Through a separate system, known as "diplomatic cables." Tanuki Mar 2016 #58

They don't really want to know. ucrdem Mar 2016 #95

Whoops here comes the bus FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #78

you'd send a cable. BlueStateLib Mar 2016 #80

Exactly. Empowerer Mar 2016 #123

Cables are a separate system Recursion Mar 2016 #136

How did they send it before email? gwheezie Mar 2016 #81

OMG, the logic! MoonRiver Mar 2016 #104

She wasn't supposed to send any of it. Fawke Em Mar 2016 #84

Or you don't use a computer at all Empowerer Mar 2016 #124

She did send and receive classified information from her personal email server jfern Mar 2016 #90

That information is classified. randome Mar 2016 #113

The answer is simple: She probably did not communicate classified information via email at all Empowerer Mar 2016 #116

Probably B2G Mar 2016 #120

And a very reasonable assumption it is Empowerer Mar 2016 #122

she received the info by owl dlwickham Mar 2016 #126

I have come to the conclusion Aerows Mar 2016 #128

There's a separate email system for sending and receiving classified Recursion Mar 2016 #135

That procedure is only for the most secret documents not all classified material snagglepuss Mar 2016 #137

No, that's for anything above "sensitive" (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #138

Then what about the email to Sidney? snagglepuss Mar 2016 #140

If the material was classified at the time somebody broke that rule Recursion Mar 2016 #141