2016 Postmortem

highoverheadspace

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12. Many of those foreign policy decisions are actually the only area where I disagree with Bernie.

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 08:52 AM

Mar 2016

I think Clinton will be much worse in that regard though because the Neocons have already stated they will switch over and vote for her. As I wrote, his domestic agenda is what really matters to We the People.

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A year from now when Hillary is President nothing will change..... [View all] highoverheadspace Mar 2016 OP

Post removed Post removed Mar 2016 #1

In case you didn't get it, I despise Trump and am all onboard for Bernie! highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #9

Well then state your case for Bernie. Don't stink up DU with your hyperbolic bashing. JTFrog Mar 2016 #88

My case for Bernie is all over this thread. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #92

I read the OP. Nothing but a bunch of hyperbolic bashing and equating with Republicans. n/t JTFrog Mar 2016 #95

Yea, well there are mixed feelings and then there is over the top rhetoric. JTFrog Mar 2016 #115

It is nothing of the sort. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #123

What are you talking about?? The OP was nothing of the kind. reformist2 Mar 2016 #20

This is the latest Hillary groupthink response. That's all you've got. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #37

More Trump puffing. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #2

Hillary groupthink response. Thanks for playing. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #39

Given the repetitiveness in the anti-Hillary attacks by Bernie supporters ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #77

Sure Joe, sure. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #79

Don't have to believe it ... its clearly visible everday in ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #84

That's what JaneyVee's hidden post says but it is a false witness against a DUer. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #60

How long today until ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #75

Instead of complaining about public sentiment, why don't you present a case as to why you believe highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #97

"Public Sentiment" ... Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!! JoePhilly Mar 2016 #105

Let me do you one better, you can go to Bernies page and go right down the list of his entire highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #119

You see "nothing of merit sammythecat Mar 2016 #143

Thanks for summing it up. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #148

7 BSS would hide a post from the Easter Bunny redstateblues Mar 2016 #179

So that's how you're framing this? Any criticism of Hillary = "Trump puffing". Avalux Mar 2016 #145

What exactly is Trump puffing and why would you accuse anyone here of doing it? polly7 Mar 2016 #155

A year from now IF Hillary is pres, we will be seeing the start of WWIII. peacebird Mar 2016 #3

Bernie voted for more wars and war funding than... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #5

Ridiculous to add in war finding karynnj Mar 2016 #11

OP's like this and so many others are pathetic too BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #18

As a matrilineal Jew seeing my mom's religion used as a cudgel makes me apoplectic. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #47

I was not aware patrilineal Jews existed. Seriously. JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #89

My mom was Jewish. (matrilineal) My dad wasn't. (patrilineal) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #116

The OP expresses my big fear Armstead Mar 2016 #53

Spot on. Like I wrote, at least with Bernie "We have a chance". highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #57

We're dealing with the most conservative Court since the 50s, if not the 30s BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #67

I know there's a lot at stake....But it operates on two levels Armstead Mar 2016 #111

That's why I hope Bernie's message drives change within the party BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #122

Sometimes being "safe" is the most dangerous thing you can do. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #131

Agreed - both very disgusting, divisive and harmful. karynnj Mar 2016 #138

I hope you stick around BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #147

Congress defunded the vietnan war BlueStateLib Mar 2016 #27

No, that is a RW lie that blamed Congress because they cut funding in 1975, the US left in 1973 karynnj Mar 2016 #137

Congress cuts military aid to South Vietnam BlueStateLib Mar 2016 #152

We withdrew in 1973. The US was not fighting in Vietnam karynnj Mar 2016 #154

Many of those foreign policy decisions are actually the only area where I disagree with Bernie. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #12

95% of presidents job is foreign policy... JaneyVee Mar 2016 #16

Can't say that I disagree with that. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #26

Even more reason to vote against neocon sidekick Hillary. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #41

That's a ridiculous and unsupportable assertion. tabasco Mar 2016 #94

Damn those pesky facts again workinclasszero Mar 2016 #120

Dogs and Cats, living together ... mass hysteria!!!!! JoePhilly Mar 2016 #86

And stupidest post of the year goes to..... JTFrog Mar 2016 #91

The image -- GWB in a pants suit. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #96

Uh. What? Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2016 #156

Social security will be cut & privatized. RiverLover Mar 2016 #4

She has a 100% rating on protecting Social Security. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #6

Who is doing the rating? RiverLover Mar 2016 #15

The ARA, Association of Retired Americans. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #19

That is such an untruth. RiverLover Mar 2016 #21

Oh ok JaneyVee Mar 2016 #24

She's confirmed she knows how to spin things & gets her people to follow suit, that's it. RiverLover Mar 2016 #28

No! Social security will only be PARTIALLY cut and privatized RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #29

Bingo. RiverLover Mar 2016 #33

Nailed it. Its all about distraction. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #43

All true. The First thing she will do is restructure the election rules... yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #63

Rest assured, upcoming problems, when they're acknowledged as such... RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #69

O yeah, that reminds me... yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #72

And that's a Good Thing! RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #81

as in supprting her constituents -- the prison corporations. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #104

You are TOO GOOD!!! Wow! pdsimdars Mar 2016 #100

Just like Obama did? giftedgirl77 Mar 2016 #126

No it will not. N/t gollygee Mar 2016 #129

You should self delete this. Trump puff pieces are not allowed on DU leftofcool Mar 2016 #7

Hillary groupthink response. Total nonsense. BillZBubb Mar 2016 #44

I'm not a fan of that blowhard thank you. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #46

Criticizing Clinton does not equate to puffing up Trump Armstead Mar 2016 #56

You are being too hard on them. I don't think they grasp that suble nuance. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #106

Aw, Come on, Hillary herself wouldn't mind! Herman4747 Mar 2016 #73

Wow, stretch much? Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #134

Sanders hobnobs with Goldman Sachs, does he get any credit? Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #8

This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #10

My perspective on Hillary as a Bernie supporter. Funtatlaguy Mar 2016 #13

Interesting observations on Social Security EndElectoral Mar 2016 #30

Oh, Facty mcFacterson . . . . you forgot, they just make things up the feel good with pdsimdars Mar 2016 #108

Mine too as a Hillary supporter relative to Sanders but way better than any GOPr uponit7771 Mar 2016 #136

SS will be sold to BlackRock and raised to 70 MisterP Mar 2016 #141

That "closeness with banks" & their massive payoff to her, million$ for meaningless speeche$, RiverLover Mar 2016 #142

"when Hillary is President" ? Tarc Mar 2016 #14

:-) NurseJackie Mar 2016 #164

Disagree. I'm pretty sure we will be involved in some military regime change somewhere. EndElectoral Mar 2016 #17

Well then- you being pretty sure is all the proof I need! redstateblues Mar 2016 #23

Just going by her past experiences... EndElectoral Mar 2016 #36

Corroboration from that street corner crank, Jeffrey Sachs RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #40

Your post and link is so meaningful it should have it's own topic, not part of a thread EndElectoral Mar 2016 #48

Thanks! I believe someone posted it when it first was published RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author PonyUp Mar 2016 #25

I can see the crowds chanting. .. with arms raised and lighters lit. . . . beautiful . . . pdsimdars Mar 2016 #109

A year from NOW and she will have been in office for less than two months. randome Mar 2016 #22

And like Groundhog Day.... highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #35

I would much prefer someone new as our next President but that doesn't look likely. randome Mar 2016 #42

And like Groundhog Day, nothing will change. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #49

Its those aides and advisers that worry me Armstead Mar 2016 #59

Little known fact, it was highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #113

mindless groupthink. . . she loses against most anyone else in the GE pdsimdars Mar 2016 #110

I like it in the USA Progressive dog Mar 2016 #31

Tell that to Flint, MI. Or the people without water in the San Joaquin Valley. RiverLover Mar 2016 #85

The US government will get right to Progressive dog Mar 2016 #175

You have google or some search engine. . . go look up some data pdsimdars Mar 2016 #112

Solutions to problems need some chance of actually working. Progressive dog Mar 2016 #177

I point out the 16 years of Dem,. Presidents pdsimdars Mar 2016 #180

You must have missed the part in social studies about how laws get passed. Progressive dog Mar 2016 #182

WRONG! EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #32

And think of all the headaches those bankers will have... yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #76

I feel great pity EdwardBernays Mar 2016 #90

True that FreakinDJ Mar 2016 #34

IF she is president. djean111 Mar 2016 #38

Are you suggesting that today is no different than the day Obama took office? brooklynite Mar 2016 #45

For all those poor souls lost to the neocons wars in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Yemen, Ukraine highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #51

Much better to be killed by Ghadaffi or gassed by Assad, right? brooklynite Mar 2016 #58

Nice deflection, but do you have nothing to say highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #68

"Hopey Changey"? Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #65

Nice implied syllogism RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #74

"Hopey Changey" was a RW smear on Obama by Sarah Palin. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #82

Whoosh! RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #87

I do understand. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #107

Haha. Nope. You don't. RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #117

I am definitely not right wing. As far as Sarah Palin goes, I didn't know that she came up with that highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #124

The OP speaks of one year from now. Obama has been President for 7 years. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #62

Fair enough, but YOU know that's not the OPs point. brooklynite Mar 2016 #71

Exactly. It will be same old, same old. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #125

To which I would argue that Clinton plans to continue in the steps of President Obama brooklynite Mar 2016 #132

They both serve the same 0.01% corporate interests when it comes to plundering the countries of highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #133

On the brighter side.. peace13 Mar 2016 #50

wow, there are many ways to complete that sentence yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #78

LOL, It's tough out here. peace13 Mar 2016 #83

You don't know that....n/t asuhornets Mar 2016 #52

It's naive to think any major change will occur with either Dem as President. LonePirate Mar 2016 #54

Why do you have that Bernie logo? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #114

Reality tells me Repubs will maintain their House majority after November. No change is coming. LonePirate Mar 2016 #118

And you think President Sanders jcgoldie Mar 2016 #55

I think he will address it directly and find ways to go around those who oppose change whereas highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #149

Says the person who thinks RW smears are "EXCELLENT". Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #61

Exactly ... I think lots of ... JoePhilly Mar 2016 #80

Do you deny that it was Bill that sold us down the river on NAFTA, the deregulation of the media, highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #127

You stated that the "Queer Reserve Note" picture was "Excellent". Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2016 #146

Actually, winning is keeping a Republican out of the White House. A Republican never Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #64

Same thing would happen if Bernie or any other Democrat were elected. The GOP House will block stevenleser Mar 2016 #70

and of course, crickets in response. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #160

I've read your posts here for the past year. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #162

Bernie is also a frequent guest at Fox. I guess you need to switch to Hillary now. stevenleser Mar 2016 #167

Yeah, but Bernie is actually a democrat! highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #169

See my #171 stevenleser Mar 2016 #172

I do want to give you some recognition for your efforts. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #174

And actually, Bernie has the thinnest hold on the Democrat identity of anyone ever using it. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #173

You've been suckered into one of the talking points. . that Hillary will win if nominated. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #93

I disagree about nothing being changed. peace13 Mar 2016 #98

K&R yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #99

The lives of those in the ME and Africa and the whole region will still be seen as polly7 Mar 2016 #102

Just watch the shape shifter speak at AIPAC, GOD that women frightens me...let me call it first! insta8er Mar 2016 #121

Do you think about how much better "just like today" is gollygee Mar 2016 #128

You are wrong. Things WILL change. dchill Mar 2016 #130

Except the first woman president?!?! Sigh uponit7771 Mar 2016 #135

I really don't care if its a man, woman, black, white or polka dot. Obviously, color and gender do highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #139

It's not about what YOU care about. nt stevenleser Mar 2016 #159

No Faux Steve, its about all of us, its about humanity. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #163

But you support Faux Bernie. I guess you need to switch to Hillary now! stevenleser Mar 2016 #166

Ya lost me on that one Steve. highoverheadspace Mar 2016 #170

Hmm, lets see, how can I make this simpler for you... stevenleser Mar 2016 #171

Well, Trump and his Trumpistas will have been spanked in public. Orsino Mar 2016 #140

Hillary is to progressive what decaf is to coffee. Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #144

a year from now when Ted Cruz is president a whole shit ton will change Vote2016 Mar 2016 #150

You are correct and it probably doesn't much matter who is in the White House. alarimer Mar 2016 #151

After reading all the comments on this thread I have one response Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #153

it is very clear noiretextatique Mar 2016 #157

K&R CharlotteVale Mar 2016 #158

Great post and very accurate Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #161

Gods, I hope so. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #165

Believe that if you want, but it won't get a lot worse treestar Mar 2016 #168

'No we can't!' Shadowflash Mar 2016 #176

Sure it will change rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #178

probably runaway hero Mar 2016 #181