2016 Postmortem

Onlooker

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38. On foreign affairs, Bernie is closer to Gary Johnson than to Obama

Mon Mar 21, 2016, 05:41 PM

Mar 2016

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Bernie is pretty libertarian in the modern meaning. He's closer to Gary Johnson than he is to Barack Obama. My point had nothing to do with gun control. I recognize he's from a rural state so historically has supported state rights and some gun rights, just as Hillary represented a state that depends heavily on international commerce, so historically has been more sympathetic to Wall St. than has Sanders. I don't fault either of them really. That's politics. But, I do mean that Bernie is quite libertarian on foreign affairs, defining libertarian more along the lines of Gary Johnson than Rand Paul.

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Hillary and Bernie, two great candidates [View all] Onlooker Mar 2016 OP

Indeed. I will proudly support either as our nominee. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #1

Well Said! gainesvillenole Mar 2016 #2

Kumbaya and why I totally disagree insta8er Mar 2016 #3

Well, Hillary is quite popular around the world ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #12

And meanwhile we can send American troops and bombs to go and liberate some poor country insta8er Mar 2016 #13

FDR kept us out of Europe until genocide of Jews and others was well under way Onlooker Mar 2016 #14

Some people forgot that FDR was a pioneer in global trade Hereiam2005 Mar 2016 #35

You've just made a series, not of generalisations, but of half-truth generalisations. Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #71

You said "Bernie" (meaning Senator Sanders), and "libertarianism" in the same breath there. staggerleem Mar 2016 #36

On foreign affairs, Bernie is closer to Gary Johnson than to Obama Onlooker Mar 2016 #38

Where did you get that idea ? There are helpless, second-world countries Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #37

Bra-vo farleftlib Mar 2016 #69

Despite the direness of the topic, LOL. Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #70

K&R NCTraveler Mar 2016 #4

I agree with only half of your post pdsimdars Mar 2016 #5

That's nice Onlooker Mar 2016 #9

Looking objectively at their records, bernie is way better. Vattel Mar 2016 #56

I don't agree with any of your post ... Onlooker Mar 2016 #63

Hillary has a great resume, but she's not a great candidate. reformist2 Mar 2016 #6

Way too much sanity for a GD:P op. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #7

Kudos! A great model for both sides. nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #8

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #10

Unity bot whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #11

Many Bernie "supporters" UglyGreed Mar 2016 #18

I'm a Bernie supporter, and I will be voting for Hillary if she's the nominee, but..... marmar Mar 2016 #15

Homework Assignment DownriverDem Mar 2016 #17

Sorry, but I know how she is, from a leftist perspective. marmar Mar 2016 #20

again we see the condescending argument from an HRC supporter navarth Mar 2016 #21

Amen my brother marmar Mar 2016 #29

Go Bernie liberal from boston Mar 2016 #54

Lol RANGERMAN89 Mar 2016 #31

I wish folks really knew Hillary DownriverDem Mar 2016 #16

I think we DO know Hillary marions ghost Mar 2016 #25

We know her, believe it. Supported & met her twice, BC once. 2008 Burndown uncovered all. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #60

2008--a big turn off marions ghost Mar 2016 #64

One great candidate PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #19

Excellent post, and extremely rational. Amimnoch Mar 2016 #22

You are aware that you have a rec list and people can see it? Right? Autumn Mar 2016 #23

You didn't read my first paragraph, did you? Onlooker Mar 2016 #24

Surrreee. You know, this old Latina woman right here was a supporters of Hillary in 08. Autumn Mar 2016 #28

Apparently some people think you can't support Hillary Hereiam2005 Mar 2016 #34

You mean like FDR ? And JFK ? Joe Chi Minh Mar 2016 #42

Uh huh Read it. Looked at your recs and transparency page and your other posts. merrily Mar 2016 #59

I'm not a hero worshipper Onlooker Mar 2016 #61

Uh huh. merrily Mar 2016 #62

Thank you. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #66

Bernie Butter - the low, low, low-priced spread. I won't buy it. I wouldn't even accept it free. merrily Mar 2016 #58

I never looked at someone's Rec List... Ino Mar 2016 #65

Bernie = good candidate. Hillary = not a good candidate, therefore ... ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #26

I completely agree with your sentiment ... salinsky Mar 2016 #27

What you said. wryter2000 Mar 2016 #41

I have no problem voting for either. zappaman Mar 2016 #30

K&R nt LostOne4Ever Mar 2016 #32

Glad to finally meet an educated Bernie supporter Hereiam2005 Mar 2016 #33

Welcome to DU wryter2000 Mar 2016 #40

Thank you wryter2000 Mar 2016 #39

No, you're spouting nonsense. This will be an election race between ... DrBulldog Mar 2016 #43

I don't think either one is all that great of a candidate. bigwillq Mar 2016 #44

Agreed. I support Clinton, but think Sanders is giving a good speech in AZ right now. spooky3 Mar 2016 #45

K&R Dem2 Mar 2016 #46

I Agree. Supported Obama Over Hillary In 2008. TomCADem Mar 2016 #47

"I am Bernie supporter, but" = didn't really need to read the rest. djean111 Mar 2016 #48

that's hogwash in the form of a thin veneer of evenhandedness stupidicus Mar 2016 #49

I suspected without reading the replies... auntpurl Mar 2016 #50

Voted for Bernie March 1st and he won my state. mountain grammy Mar 2016 #51

This is a great post. Thank you so much. yardwork Mar 2016 #52

I will take a PASS on whom you support. merrily Mar 2016 #53

If Hillary takes the nomination, then I DEMAND ... nikto Mar 2016 #55

I agree IrishEyes Mar 2016 #57

The character of our candidates is the real story of this election randr Mar 2016 #67

Thanks Mary Mac Mar 2016 #68

I am definitely pro-Bernie rather than anti-Hillary gollygee Mar 2016 #72

Kick! LAS14 Mar 2016 #73