2016 Postmortem

Trust Buster

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78. Republicans fear Clinton. They would love Sanders. The commercials practically write themselves.

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What do Hillary Supporters have against open primaries? [View all] GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 OP

Both types have pros and cons Recursion Mar 2016 #1

I think closed primaries embolden the two party system GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #4

Yup. nt artislife Mar 2016 #43

So, why not join the Party and change it's philosophy from the inside? brooklynite Mar 2016 #49

Because I ultimately want to end this two party system madness... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #51

...and yet, here you are at DEMOCRATIC Underground. brooklynite Mar 2016 #56

Thank Bernie Sanders for that nt GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #58

So in other words asuhornets Mar 2016 #117

It's his vote. He gets to do as he pleases, and as the system allows. Bubzer Mar 2016 #172

Very nicely said... FarPoint Mar 2016 #80

Are you aware that many here are not democrats? There is no requirement that posters Autumn Mar 2016 #93

I'm well aware of that...I just don't understand why you'd want to. brooklynite Mar 2016 #120

Why shouldn't we be here? Like Sanders we have always supported democrats. Autumn Mar 2016 #121

Ours was closed, Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #113

In 2002 Republicans crossed over to unseat a sitting Congresswoman in Georgia. onehandle Mar 2016 #2

Further details please? UtahJosh Mar 2016 #6

We're still waiting... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #61

Cynthia McKinney is "mythical" to you? Recursion Mar 2016 #65

Cynthia McKinney's opponent went on to win the GE. So how did anybody spoil anything? nt GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #95

Ask onehandle; I wasn't terribly sad about that outcome Recursion Mar 2016 #97

You are from GA? You haven't been paying attention very long redstateblues Mar 2016 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Mar 2016 #62

McKinney. It's still fairly recent history, at least to a geezer like me (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #64

Because this on primary is all that matters Gwhittey Mar 2016 #3

Because when all of the American people are allowed to vote votesparks Mar 2016 #5

Only Democrats should be allowed to select our nominee. That's not even debatable IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #7

Who gets to decide who is a Democrat? dogman Mar 2016 #10

No, it's called registration status. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #11

Yes, I register when I choose which ballot I want. dogman Mar 2016 #15

It shows no commitment to the Party. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #20

No Party owns anybody's vote. dogman Mar 2016 #24

In a general - yes, in a primary - no. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #26

So we must adhere to your purity test? dogman Mar 2016 #28

We're talking about state party rules. No need to make this personal. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #31

Apparently many state parties don't. dogman Mar 2016 #38

What makes 6 months better than 5? hellofromreddit Mar 2016 #50

6 months is my opinion. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #53

so if you excite people to become Democrats after 6 months Pat Riots Mar 2016 #124

As do I vdogg Mar 2016 #177

If a person wants to help decide who the Democrats run in the general election . . . brush Mar 2016 #135

This message was self-deleted by its author dogman Mar 2016 #162

They love oaths artislife Mar 2016 #44

See my response #81 LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #82

Why should anyone commit to the party when the party won't commit to the people they supposedly -none Mar 2016 #68

In my state of Ohio, I saw interviews of Democrats voting for Kasich to hurt Trump. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #74

But Republicans voting for Hillary because they know they can beat her is OK? -none Mar 2016 #76

Republicans fear Clinton. They would love Sanders. The commercials practically write themselves. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #78

Prove your claim. RichVRichV Mar 2016 #106

Start with this... ConservativeDemocrat Mar 2016 #146

Bwahahahaha! RichVRichV Mar 2016 #153

! blue neen Mar 2016 #158

It's not a marriage where there are only two people treestar Mar 2016 #149

EvenObama is laughing at your post. -none Mar 2016 #161

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #16

Can't Republicans run a concerted effort to reregister people to spoil a closed primary? nt GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #19

Yes, that's why it's better to have registration deadlines. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #21

That is why New York has their system. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #81

That is the New York Democratic Party's right. dogman Mar 2016 #86

I don't paint Bernie supporters as right-wing. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #90

Is that a fact you can prove? dogman Mar 2016 #99

Look at the vote totals in open primaries versus closed LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #154

What incredible nonsense. hedda_foil Mar 2016 #165

They cross over not because they think Bernie will be easier to beat, LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #170

This message was self-deleted by its author LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #169

The individuals themselves Renew Deal Mar 2016 #27

Not in my State. dogman Mar 2016 #32

Yes. They're all different. Renew Deal Mar 2016 #33

That is correct for that election. dogman Mar 2016 #39

It wouldn't be debateable if... votesparks Mar 2016 #25

this x 100000000000000 nt Pat Riots Mar 2016 #125

What nonsense. basselope Mar 2016 #96

Open primaries are an opportunity for opposition parties to high jack... dubyadiprecession Mar 2016 #8

How so? Don't Candidates need the support of Independents to win General Elections? GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #9

They can vote whichever way they wish in the general. Primaries are much different. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #13

Primaries are intended for party supporters to decide their candidate. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #67

or the party to could be open to new supporters instead assuming it is all sabotage nt Pat Riots Mar 2016 #126

Wow, that's pretty high. I think this election is opening up some eyes Karma13612 Mar 2016 #159

So take your Party and go home? dogman Mar 2016 #12

Are you serious ? Trust Buster Mar 2016 #14

Are you? dogman Mar 2016 #17

Um, the Democratic Party (composed of Democrats) decides who represents the Democratic Party. randome Mar 2016 #30

Don't be surprised when the democratic party loses when they ignore 43% of the electorate nt GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #34

Which leaves a majority of 57% LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #69

57%? Gwhittey Mar 2016 #73

This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #123

Not in the General it doesn't. hedda_foil Mar 2016 #166

Republicans feel the same way. They want repugs deciding who their . . . brush Mar 2016 #137

The point is: Who are Democrats? dogman Mar 2016 #45

Well, it sort of seems to me, for the sake of accuracy and organization, that... randome Mar 2016 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author dogman Mar 2016 #88

Maybe it's because you have commitment issues, then. randome Mar 2016 #105

Been there, done that. dogman Mar 2016 #122

Try registering to vote and checking the Democratic Party box. brush Mar 2016 #136

It's hard when there is no Democratic box to check. dogman Mar 2016 #163

I registered voters in my state and there is the option to declare your party . . . brush Mar 2016 #168

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #22

MY father claimed to do this...he held one local union office or another throughout his working life HereSince1628 Mar 2016 #98

In NY STATE, party affiliation for already registered is six months deadline, longest in Karma13612 Mar 2016 #160

Very good question. Karma13612 Mar 2016 #18

Bernie chose to join the Dem party to run, why can't other independents? brush Mar 2016 #139

I agree that we should have people join. Karma13612 Mar 2016 #148

Yes. 6 months is too long. brush Mar 2016 #150

A 6 month deadline for registration is quite reasonable IMO. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #23

If my independent taxpayer money has to go to fund party primaries... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #40

I feel differently. I only want committed Democrats deciding our nominee. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #41

Well then, Bettie Mar 2016 #79

They fear the people who choose not to belong to a political party. Op[en primaries are Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #29

No, I don't want Republicans trying to win the general by voting for Sanders in a primary. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #42

Republicans are not the ones voting for Sanders. -none Mar 2016 #75

Republicans like Limbaugh actually have a name for it. It happens. Trust Buster Mar 2016 #77

I'll give you the example of my state strategery blunder Mar 2016 #138

They fear their own grassroots as well. artislife Mar 2016 #48

Just cut out the middle man DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #35

That makes too much sense, you subversive you. brush Mar 2016 #140

Because they want to ensure the establishment wins shawn703 Mar 2016 #36

I'm a strong advocate for semi-open caucuses. Totally open leads to crossover skulduggery occurring Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #37

Caucuses are outdated really. Most people don't have time to spend 3 or 4 hours . . . brush Mar 2016 #141

Arizona might disagree as well. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #142

You do know that the repugs in Maricopa county closed polling sites from 200 to 60 brush Mar 2016 #144

Everybody should be allowed to vote for whomever they choose. Period. FULL STOP! pinebox Mar 2016 #46

bravo! Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #87

"Not a dimes worth of difference"? Start your own party redstateblues Mar 2016 #155

Sure. pinebox Mar 2016 #167

You got it right!!!!! No whining from me!! Karma13612 Mar 2016 #157

same thing the establishment types have against a people's movement. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #47

We are selecting the Democratic nominee for the Democratic party. DCBob Mar 2016 #52

The Primaries are funded by the taxpayers... I think any who wish should have a say GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #54

So you agree that Indepoendents shouldn't have participated in yesterday's Party Caucuses. brooklynite Mar 2016 #60

States provide methods for other parties to have their own primary or caucus. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #71

In this reply, you are parroting almost EVERY RWNJ website. Raine1967 Mar 2016 #151

Losing, lol. morningfog Mar 2016 #55

I don't like either open primaries or caucuses, regardless of who wins them. Beacool Mar 2016 #57

Letting people choose whom to vote for is undemocratic? dogman Mar 2016 #89

That's the point, many people cannot caucus for various reasons. Beacool Mar 2016 #94

People also cannot vote for various reasons. dogman Mar 2016 #102

Caucuses take hours. Most people don't have that kind of time anymore. brush Mar 2016 #143

Unless there is an unopposed candidate MichMan Mar 2016 #59

We have a horrible problem with closed primaries in Florida. Fuddnik Mar 2016 #83

The solution is better Dem candidates MichMan Mar 2016 #84

DWS actively discourages "better Dem candidates" down here. She likes fellow DINOs. djean111 Mar 2016 #133

I don't have a candidate, but I support closed primaries on principle Orangepeel Mar 2016 #63

That would be fine if the government would stop supporting the two party system. dogman Mar 2016 #91

Both Hillary and Bernie supporters support what's best for the candidate. Onlooker Mar 2016 #66

The answer to your question . . . . pdsimdars Mar 2016 #72

How many times does this have to be repeated? baldguy Mar 2016 #85

When you disparage 26% of the electorate automatically.... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #92

Picking between the hairsbreath difference between Clinton & Sanders baldguy Mar 2016 #103

I see, how dare I have reservations about a Democrat... I must be a Right Winger... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #108

No, every criticism of Clinton isn't a RW attack - just those that were thought up by RWers. baldguy Mar 2016 #109

but that 1% criticism is a big one! Pat Riots Mar 2016 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author Pat Riots Mar 2016 #130

You call it 'disparaging' to expect Democratic Party voters to select their candidates? randome Mar 2016 #104

This isn't a sport game... I refuse to take a pledge of fealty... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #107

What is "Bernie or Bust" other than a demand for fealty? baldguy Mar 2016 #110

You don't get to decide the values and judgements... GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #112

There you go with the RW propaganda again. baldguy Mar 2016 #114

not based on lies, based on history Pat Riots Mar 2016 #131

DLC not DNC nt Pat Riots Mar 2016 #132

The fact that Clinton haters can't tell the difference speaks volumes. baldguy Mar 2016 #134

that sounds cut and pasted- and confusing the DNC for the DLC is hilarious. bettyellen Mar 2016 #145

Well wait to cast your vote in the general since you don't belong to a party. brush Mar 2016 #147

the party's been on a careful reducing plan to leave it with only those who'll literally take any MisterP Mar 2016 #100

I think Democrats should pick the Democratic candidate. I don't want Republicans lunamagica Mar 2016 #101

the purpose of a primary is to determine the party's nominee DrDan Mar 2016 #111

Independent voters hate Hillary. She loses when she has to go beyond her elderly Democrats base Vote2016 Mar 2016 #115

We Independents are hated almost as much as Republicans. They hate that Democratic liberal_at_heart Mar 2016 #116

I'm torn. Closed primaries make more sense but my candidate does better in open ones. pampango Mar 2016 #118

oh hell, they don't even want an open party. They'd like to toss half of us from the party. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #119

1972 RandySF Mar 2016 #127

Not really sure they mind it at all d_legendary1 Mar 2016 #128

I want our Democratic nominee to be picked by Democrats. What is so hard to understand about that? upaloopa Mar 2016 #152

Why do Sanders Supporters want the possibility of Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos"? SFnomad Mar 2016 #164

I'm a Hillary supporter and have nothing against open primaries DesertRat Mar 2016 #171

I think there are good reasons for either system, but I really wish every state did it the same gollygee Mar 2016 #173

Looks like somone just got awarded a time out from jury-duty: Bubzer Mar 2016 #174

Someone alerted my post? I am amazed because I try to be respectful when commenting GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #175

FEAR !! pangaia Mar 2016 #176