2016 Postmortem

djean111

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59. Oh, my - "the Left really, really needs to get over the 1960s" - heh, or else find or

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:07 AM

Mar 2016

start a new party, eventually.

Maybe Third Way and neocon governance is okay with you, but I will not be enabling it. Ever. Nor will the newly energized voters.

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The Democratic Party in 2016 Primaries is either going to completely morph into a new [View all] Seeinghope Mar 2016 OP

We are watching! oldandhappy Mar 2016 #1

Cool story, bro. nt onehandle Mar 2016 #2

About that... the Left really, really needs to get over the 1960s Recursion Mar 2016 #3

i wanna see you tell a vietnam vet to get over it Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #4

Since their average age is about 70 I'm sure I'd be fine Recursion Mar 2016 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Chezboo Mar 2016 #13

What? The Vietnam vets at my VFW post are both old and conservative. What's "abusive" about pointing Recursion Mar 2016 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author Chezboo Mar 2016 #17

Well, you and Viva did exactly what I'm talking about Recursion Mar 2016 #18

Those grandchildren support the socialist left policies of Bernie Sanders by a large majority... Human101948 Mar 2016 #56

Indeed, and they'd be horrified by the policies of JFK or FDR Recursion Mar 2016 #57

Who are 'they'? AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #67

Younger Sanders supporters Recursion Mar 2016 #69

Which policies specifically? AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #70

Caving to the South on the New Deal for one Recursion Mar 2016 #71

So Millennials would be against Social Security? AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #72

Of course anyone who reads history will know about these things Human101948 Mar 2016 #78

Do you consider yourself to be a part of 'the right'? AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #66

No, the left, which is why I try to give others on the left with me advice (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #68

Most of the vietnam vets I know want to have nothing to do with the VFW or the American Legion. hobbit709 Mar 2016 #47

Do you know how hard it is to get a VFW, AL, IVAW, et al member to show a valid DD-214? VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #77

I remember going to the VFW a long time ago as a recently discharged vet Fumesucker Mar 2016 #33

Yeah, I prefer the Legion a lot (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #34

You don't know what you're talking about.. whathehell Mar 2016 #52

The people most supporting the 1960esque democrat are young people nt GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #5

He's not a 1960esque Democrat. Hell, he protested LBJ back in the 1960s Recursion Mar 2016 #8

He protested LBJ in solidarity with the PEOPLE of the Democratic Party. n/t. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #12

Who, remember, were not the majority of the party, nor even close to it Recursion Mar 2016 #15

Oh, you mean the future of the party? KPN Mar 2016 #9

Perhaps you'd prefer a party indefinitely dedicated to appeasing the ways of Ronald Reagan? highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #10

Why? That's the right's version of this and it's even worse when they do it Recursion Mar 2016 #21

Don't fucking call me a rightist. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #25

Huh? I didn't (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #27

What is wrong with this thread? pdsimdars Mar 2016 #32

OK then. I've read more, and I'm getting your drift. highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #41

A refreshing post with wisdom. Thank you nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #42

Exceptionally well said!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2016 #51

The principles are the same Armstead Mar 2016 #81

Adapting to the times doesn't have to mean moving to the right. Ken Burch Mar 2016 #11

Indeed it doesn't, nor am I suggesting that Recursion Mar 2016 #14

So you think everything is fine. That the principles you endorse dropping mean...? kristopher Mar 2016 #19

Ask seeinghope, who specifically called out the "traditional" party of the 60s and 70s Recursion Mar 2016 #20

No, I would like you to be specific about the policies you want to drop. kristopher Mar 2016 #22

Sure thing. Our last platform was 2012 so I'll go with that Recursion Mar 2016 #23

You seem to have drifted from the original question. kristopher Mar 2016 #26

Exactly: you equate FDR with "principles of social democracy" Recursion Mar 2016 #28

So you are not willing to articulate the principles that you live by? kristopher Mar 2016 #38

Well, I told you: I want a social democratic movement that moves past Recursion Mar 2016 #40

That has nothing to do with values or principles. kristopher Mar 2016 #43

Maybe to you it doesn't (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #44

Empirically it doesn't. kristopher Mar 2016 #45

Historians voted FDR the third greatest president* in all of U S history.. whathehell Mar 2016 #53

George Washington is often voted the greatest. Let's bring back slavery. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #63

Of course, because that's the reason for his rank, modern historians being notoriously pro-slavery.. whathehell Mar 2016 #74

Not so sure you're right about that. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #35

Hillary is Supply Side and Endless War...and Free Trade Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #24

Perhaps the party is misjudging the times. PatrickforO Mar 2016 #29

I can't think of a time I'd rather be alive in the US than right now. Recursion Mar 2016 #30

Now I see. . .. I guess I missed part of the earlier conversation pdsimdars Mar 2016 #37

Eh, we've always been one step away from becoming a fascist state Recursion Mar 2016 #39

You don't seem to know what fascism is. kristopher Mar 2016 #46

Yeah, the party they are dreaming off was a whole lot whiter, and had tons of dixiecrats. KitSileya Mar 2016 #54

Oh, my - "the Left really, really needs to get over the 1960s" - heh, or else find or djean111 Mar 2016 #59

Your snarky reply notwithstanding... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #76

I don't know that we're going back Hydra Mar 2016 #6

All the iconic discussions PATRICK Mar 2016 #36

It's not the 60s or 70s, it's Bill Clinton pdsimdars Mar 2016 #31

+1 Art_from_Ark Mar 2016 #48

Funny...I thought Bill Clinton hatched a plan to let the Democratic Party win... brooklynite Mar 2016 #49

Nope, don't want the days of pre-Civil Rights thank you very much leftofcool Mar 2016 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author djean111 Mar 2016 #55

So, pro segregation and opposed to gay rights? Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #58

The cognitive dissonance in this thread is bizarre (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #61

Extreme, but I wouldn't say bizarre or surprising. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #64

Social vs. economic issues... ljm2002 Mar 2016 #82

I'm an old school dem. Cobalt Violet Mar 2016 #60

This. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #65

The party is made up of the people in it treestar Mar 2016 #62

This is what we have now --in effect: marions ghost Mar 2016 #73

No, it won't gollygee Mar 2016 #75

8 months ago, Warren was the only one who could save us. JoePhilly Mar 2016 #79

Let us all return to the 60's in our politic and turn left instead of right. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #80

You can go back thruout all of history and see common threads. Wealth, power belonging to leaders Seeinghope Mar 2016 #83