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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Susan Sarandon has a great locale for your next workers' council meeting. [View all]Fla Dem
(23,656 posts)65. When asked if she'd vote for HRC she said..
Sarandon appeared on Chris Hayess MSNBC show Tuesday night, where she made her case for Sanders, citing his record on free trade, prisons, genetically modified foods, and more. Hayes pointed out that elections are choices, and asked whether she would vote for Clinton in a general election matchup against Donald Trump.
I think Bernie would probably encourage people [to vote Clinton], because he doesnt have a lot of ego in this, she said. But I think a lot of people are, Sorry, I just cant bring myself to do that. As for herself, I dont know. Im going to see what happens.
Really? an incredulous Hayes asked.
Some people feel Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately, she replied.
Hayes accused her of adopting the Leninist model of heighten the contradictions, and she happily agreed. Isnt that dangerous, he wondered?
If you think its pragmatic to shore up the status quo right now, then youre not in touch with the status quo, she said.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/susan-sarandon-bernie-sanders/475875/
I think Bernie would probably encourage people [to vote Clinton], because he doesnt have a lot of ego in this, she said. But I think a lot of people are, Sorry, I just cant bring myself to do that. As for herself, I dont know. Im going to see what happens.
Really? an incredulous Hayes asked.
Some people feel Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately, she replied.
Hayes accused her of adopting the Leninist model of heighten the contradictions, and she happily agreed. Isnt that dangerous, he wondered?
If you think its pragmatic to shore up the status quo right now, then youre not in touch with the status quo, she said.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/susan-sarandon-bernie-sanders/475875/
This approach worked so well for Ralph Nader. What did he ever accomplish except to help Bush be appointed President in 2000, So we ended up with 9/11, the Iraq War, and so many anti-progressive Supreme Court decisions. Elections have consequences. Where was the Great Revolution? Oh sure we had Occupy Wall Street, to what end? What did they accomplish?
Where are all these lefties during the mid-terms. Change starts from the bottom up. OWS would have been better off supporting progressives and getting them elected to local and state positions as assembly people, mayors, state reps, senators and congressmen and governors. That's where you effect change. But that's hard work. If and that's a big if, Bernie gets elected, without the senate and congress working with him NOTHING WILL CHANGE. He'll get the same stonewalling Obama faced for his 8 years.
Bernie is not a compromiser, as evidenced by all the bills he voted against that were 90% laws to help "We the People" but may have had an amendment he didn't like so he voted against.
Also in all his years in congress and the senate, he's introduced a ton of legislation, but only 3 bills were ever passed, 2 were for the naming of Post offices in Vt. So he hasn't really shown an ability to build consensus.
https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q=%7B%22sponsorship%22%3A%22sponsored%22%7D
So Susan Sarandon can call for Revolution all she wants. Didn't happen in 2000 and won't happen in 2016.
By the way, I will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee. Hopefully he'll make good decisions in nominating Supreme Court Justices.
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Susan Sarandon has a great locale for your next workers' council meeting. [View all]
DanTex
Mar 2016
OP
It is called a business...I'll take that over Hillary selling herself for cash.
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#1
Susan didn't say that, so you "misspoke"....Hillary didn't earn a dime of the money....
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#11
If she "earned" her money, then she works for the investment banks and Big Pharma.....
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#15
That's correct. And conspiracy theories from the left-wing fringe notwithstanding,
DanTex
Mar 2016
#19
Calling paid speeches "legalized bribery" without a trace of evidence is a conspiracy theory.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#24
no, I object to money being shot at her with a fire hose just before she runs
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#32
Thanks for continuing to confirm that she earned a living working for "too big to fail" banks....
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#35
Tonight Hillary Clinton is in New York City at a fundraiser with the former CFO......
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#54
She was talking about other people saying that....as for herself, "she didn't know"
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#66
Good point, there are other kinds of employers I left out. But still, a huge number of Americans
DanTex
Mar 2016
#130
That excuses using right wing talking points? Oh and you spelled SCOTUS wrong.
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#81
well I think the DNC and the rest of the conservadems, neo liberals, 3rd wayers
notadmblnd
Mar 2016
#101
I don't know who "you all" is- nor what reaction to Obama that you are speaking of
notadmblnd
Mar 2016
#126
Sanders supporters are no more simple minded fucks than Hillary supporters are.
notadmblnd
Mar 2016
#149
Are you not also insulting the young voters supporting Clinton with the daily vollies of abuse,
synergie
Mar 2016
#123
Actually, you're the one writing us off, along with the BS camp and the media which
synergie
Mar 2016
#151
Taking money hand over fist from the "lucky" recipients of the concentration of wealth....
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#93
$150 million between Bill and Hillary is a BFD.....I couldn't agree more.
virtualobserver
Mar 2016
#57
She became the face of Trump enablers on the privileged far left with her inane comments on MSNBC.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#9
I think it looks like fun. If you have a half dozen people, $99 doesn't seem too bad.
cyberswede
Mar 2016
#5
Interesting, someone who lives with and profits from the 1%, and seems to know how they are.
TheBlackAdder
Mar 2016
#8
A lot of Bernie or Busters are right-wingers trolling, but Susan is definitely left-wing fringe.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#23
It's called the "horseshoe theory" -- if you get far enough on either side, they become similar.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#125
This 'attack the home of wealthy liberals' routine is the 'Al Gore's House' attack honed by those
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#29
You just have to keep agitating that metabolic byproducts container don't you?
hobbit709
Mar 2016
#25
I don't recall either of them talking about how great it would be for Trump to become president
DanTex
Mar 2016
#31
Of course Sarandon did not say that either, you did. Your attack tactic is 'Dixie Chicks + Al Gore's
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#39
Yes, she did. And the Dixie Chicks comparison is absurd, because I'm not an industry group
DanTex
Mar 2016
#42
No she didn't. If she did, you would quote her instead of characterizing. Again here you bleat but
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#53
LOL. "Reformed addict". I've had a lot of personal attacks by Bernie or Busters, but that's a new
DanTex
Mar 2016
#68
But Danny, you fully smeared Hillary in 08 primaries. Was that you asssiting the GOP and pretending
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#88
"Now, like all reformed addicts, you lash out at others who say they don't care for Hillary"
beam me up scottie
Mar 2016
#71
Now, like all reformed addicts, you lash out at others who say they don't care for Hillary.
frylock
Mar 2016
#79
Your claim was that she said 'how great it would be for Trump to become President'. She said no such
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#78
What you claimed she said she did not say. What she said was something else entirely.
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#92
Hey, Tad Devine can't be the only person to cash in on the Sanders campaign. Here come the leeches!
CalvinballPro
Mar 2016
#36
Reminds me of the lady who liked to pretend she was a milkmaid sometimes, just one of the 99%.
Tanuki
Mar 2016
#46
That dead horse has been beaten so much there's just disintegrating pulp left on the ground.
hobbit709
Mar 2016
#69
Here are links to other right wing smears of liberal pesons for having an nice house or some money:
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#83
DanTex in 2008 attacked Hillary exactly as he now attacks Bernie. Not one Democratic candidate
Bluenorthwest
Mar 2016
#94
Not to mention the right-wingers on DU constantly smearing Hillary for her wealth.
DanTex
Mar 2016
#100
After the game they could swing by Hillary's crib for Frito's & Beer.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Mar 2016
#90
Give it a rest. It's enough that she wants to see her taxes raised sharply. n/t.
Ken Burch
Mar 2016
#110
Actually, Trump would lower her taxes dramatically. Maybe that's another reason why she's
DanTex
Mar 2016
#113
“Some people feel Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately,” she replied."
workinclasszero
Mar 2016
#118
silly Susie, everyone knows cattle futures and Osprey Global is where you make the bucks
MisterP
Mar 2016
#147