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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Hillary's policies turned Libya into a terrorist hell hole [View all]Jitter65
(3,089 posts)204. OMG! "The only person who can stop this is Bernie Sanders"
People who think like that are truly dangerous as well as delusional. If you think that Bernie will not jump when Bibi tells him to jump you are on another planet.
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I guess we didn't have a President or Congress then? She made the decisions all by herself. nt
Jitter65
Apr 2016
#203
Hillary was a leading proponent for intervening in Libya's Civil War, she persuaded Obama
Uncle Joe
Apr 2016
#207
"To my way of thinking there was something unPresidential with that kind of reaction....."
pablo_marmol
Apr 2016
#253
K&R. Warmongering is evil, killing the earth but making a whole lot of rich people wealthier.
appalachiablue
Apr 2016
#283
If it had been Bush talking about Saddam that way, EVERY DUer would be disgusted by it n/t
arcane1
Mar 2016
#81
A bayonet? I read shortly after it happened it was a gun and the person holding it pulled
Samantha
Apr 2016
#273
You know I just opened this topic again & I thought one of the replies was a Dick Cheney quote...
andrewv1
Mar 2016
#53
True....In the newest CNN Poll he beats Hillary barely but does win....Bernie?
andrewv1
Mar 2016
#133
It is because her motivation is based upon an alternative agenda than the one presented.
FlatBaroque
Mar 2016
#20
You spelled Benghazi wrong. You've got an extra 'n' in there: Benghanzi
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#11
Thanks! The article wasn't in text I could copy and paste so I had to transcribe it myself.
randome
Mar 2016
#14
What wars were taking place in the Mideast directly before the invasion of Iraq???
polly7
Mar 2016
#35
I'm not sure what you mean about what wars were taking place in the Mideast before Iraq.
randome
Mar 2016
#43
That's a lie. Qaddafi was not threatening a bloodbath. Pure, filthy propaganda. nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#47
Why did Bush have a 'coalition of the willing' to destroy Iraq? Come on, you can do it .... nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#52
Whatever you think of Clinton, I don't see how you can view her as equivalent to Bush, Jr.
randome
Mar 2016
#57
Are you claiming she was unaware of PNAC's agenda or the '7 countries in 5 years' plan
polly7
Mar 2016
#62
Being aware of PNAC and trying to stop a bloodbath in Libya can be two entirely different things.
randome
Mar 2016
#74
I don't give anyone a fucking benefit of a doubt when they're being advised by a PNAC
polly7
Mar 2016
#84
But Qaddafi truly WAS fighting the Arab Spring uprising and threatened a bloodbath.
randome
Mar 2016
#61
Did you think neocons were just here in THIS country? Lol, I think you're just kidding. The Western
sabrina 1
Mar 2016
#162
It's sad to think that can actually be how some people think of these things
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#172
On The Contrary, PNAC Founders Appointed by Clinton to High Positions in Her State Department
Justina For Justice
Mar 2016
#101
What freaks me out is people who think Qadaffi, Hussein, Assad, the Shah, the Taliban...
yallerdawg
Mar 2016
#83
Certainly she is. Especially given that she brought Victoria Nuland in as Assistant Secretary of
newthinking
Mar 2016
#58
Thanks so much, very interesting! I have to leave but will bookmark this for later. nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#109
polly7, I want to thank for educating me on Libya. Your info is invaluable!
Peace Patriot
Apr 2016
#232
And as all who knew about it say . . . she talked him into it. It was HER push.
pdsimdars
Mar 2016
#88
please do some reading and learn about HRC's leading role, and she took full credit in her emails
amborin
Apr 2016
#259
Those troubled by "horrible atrocities" apparently never visited this paradise when Ghadaffi ran it.
brooklynite
Mar 2016
#15
That sounds exactly like people who defend the Iraq invasion on the basis that Saddam was awful
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#17
And would have shrugged their shoulders, no doubt, when he delivered the promised 'bloodbath'.
randome
Mar 2016
#18
Qaddafi was a bad guy but the USA supports bad guys all over the world as long as they serve power
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#45
You're welcome, mine are just a small amount I'd kept in my journal. There were many, many great
polly7
Mar 2016
#114
Regime change and flooding weaponry does not do the people of those countries any favors
newthinking
Mar 2016
#65
It's true, she pushed for regime change in Syria and still is doing it.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#26
wiki leaks has an email wherein the state dept doesn't want Syrians to blame regime change
amborin
Mar 2016
#34
Qaddafi's 2nd son, Saif-al-Islam, was in line to succeed him. Saif is Western-educated, well-spoken
virgista
Mar 2016
#39
She was planning to run for president the whole time she was Sec of State.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#54
If you are an enemy of Israel, Hillary will bomb and destroy your country /
FlatBaroque
Mar 2016
#60
Hillary supporters keep posting lies and distortions of Bernie's history and positions
pdsimdars
Mar 2016
#76
The buck stops at the top. We Democrats do not refer to the Iraq War as "Powell's War".
Trust Buster
Mar 2016
#103
please read up, this is inaccurate; Amnesty In'l contradicts this; HRC pressured Obama to bomb & too
amborin
Apr 2016
#275
I think the main thing she was concerned with is: Did it increase arms sales in the region?
LiberalArkie
Mar 2016
#87
Let's not get carried away. It wasn't that great and was still a dictatorship
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#111
I am defending what he did for his people and tried to do for all of those in Africa.
polly7
Mar 2016
#132
OK I honestly don't know much about that, but my main point on that is that
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#134
You're the one with the conspiracy theories. Everything about all this was well-known years ago.
polly7
Mar 2016
#153
Yeah, the snippets of that, that the major news organizations offered, were eye opening at the time
Babel_17
Mar 2016
#176
Hillary Clinton will still win the Democratic nomination and be elected President.
George II
Mar 2016
#108
So, let's understand this...A Candidate that has an almost 60% unfavorable rating with the public...
andrewv1
Mar 2016
#130
All that "unfavorable" BS and yet she's still 700+ delegates ahead with only about 600....
George II
Apr 2016
#212
When one goes into the voting booth, the choice is the two candidates by name/party, not....
George II
Apr 2016
#287
Chanting "scoreboard" does not answer the question why her negatives are so high.
tabasco
Apr 2016
#289
No one is chanting "scoreboard", in fact no one is even chanting and no one mentioned "scoreboard"
George II
Apr 2016
#290
Yes, those western funded and trained rebels .... things did get bad after that. nt.
polly7
Mar 2016
#155
What happened to all the Libya cheerleaders here who attacked those of us who were
sabrina 1
Mar 2016
#159
They told us we were trying to deny the Libyan people the wonderful future of freeeeeedom
sabrina 1
Mar 2016
#163
She is a walking, talking, foreign policy disaster. But shhhhh... let's leave that to the
Skwmom
Mar 2016
#166
emails show she took full credit; she ignored advice of Biden & Gates not to bomb Libya;
amborin
Mar 2016
#167
Hillary was trying to beef up her presidential resume with a few bombings
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#169
In this case it turned out to be a huge disaster. A real human tragedy of epic proportions.
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#184
Perhaps you can go pitch your Khadaffi Pity Party to the relatives of the Pan Am 103 bombing
Tarc
Apr 2016
#220
Hillary made the situation much much worse. The USA can't go around the world overthrowing dictators
Cheese Sandwich
Mar 2016
#189
She is itching for regime change in Syria, starting with a no fly zone to bait them into action.
AtomicKitten
Mar 2016
#196
Well, the destruction wrought by the Clintons and their terrible policies didn't stop at our shores.
Skwmom
Apr 2016
#202
How long until she admits to it being another "mistake" in her "foreign policy" experience resume?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2016
#221
Obama did not want to touch LIbya; HRC pressured Obama, against advice of Gates, Biden, etc.
amborin
Apr 2016
#224
Riddle ME this. Yet another illegal 'regime-change of a sovereign nation and its people
polly7
Apr 2016
#237
It's easy to criticize in retrospect. What would you do if the situation repeats in another country?
DetlefK
Apr 2016
#247
Why is it the US always seems to fund mass murdering dictators when they are serving the empire?
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#252
I cannot fail to note that you do not attempt to refute my "misrepresentation".
DetlefK
Apr 2016
#242
That laugh seems like something a psychopath would do, not a president or secretary of state.
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#251
"Everybody understands Gaddafi is a thug and murderer," Sanders said to Fox News. . . .
ucrdem
Apr 2016
#257
Hillary encouraged Obama to arm the rebels and take down the Libyan government
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#265
Condemning Gaddafi is not the same as advocating intervention to overthrow him
Fozzledick
Apr 2016
#272
condemn him, but that's not the same as saying: let's bomb Libya; HRC sold the Algeria regime
amborin
Apr 2016
#281
Cheese Sandwich, she's a woman and should get a free pass on the carnage she caused in Libya.
Skwmom
Apr 2016
#268
They keep saying 'most qualified' like we're hiring a manager for our restaurant or something
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#280
Didn't realize that the SOS had such massive powers. I guess Sanders better pick carefully, since
anotherproletariat
Apr 2016
#282
No but if read those 2 articles from the links in the OP you'll see Hillary was #1 in urging Obama
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#293
only by a huge stretch; she pressured Obama and went against everyone's advice: Gates, Biden, etc...
amborin
Apr 2016
#294
he delegated to her, and he was pressured, and acquiesced against his better judgement
amborin
Apr 2016
#300
It will not be possible to say that one of them is "guilty" while the other is not.
Orsino
Apr 2016
#305
But Hillary led the effort on this, took credit, and gave a mission accomplished speech in Libya
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2016
#306
If this doesn't disqualify a person from being president, nothing does.
Cheese Sandwich
May 2016
#315