2016 Postmortem

Ron Green

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2. What a stupid post.

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Bernie's rape fantasy essay is not old enough history and is Republican fodder [View all] Sheepshank Apr 2016 OP

There's just so much for the GOP to hammer him with. He's never faced any real scrutiny. DanTex Apr 2016 #1

You guys have thrown the kitchen sink at him AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #4

I must have missed all those TV ads talking about his honeymoon in the USSR, and his rape DanTex Apr 2016 #5

When did he call for the public ownership of the means of production? That being true socialism. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #6

In an interview back when he was mayor of Burlington. DanTex Apr 2016 #10

That surprises me, but he has changed his mind... Personally, I think the less ownership by non Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #19

No, Bernie doesn't evolve or change his mind Sheepshank Apr 2016 #25

I support both candidates, both are flawed human beings. I wish this primary was over. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #27

Yes, he has changed his mind. Though it's not clear when. DanTex Apr 2016 #34

Capitalism is why we have Donald Trump, Koch Bros, etal. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #47

It's also why we have roads and homes and food. DanTex Apr 2016 #49

I was hoping you would say that. No, it isnt. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #58

Yes, it is. I agree that our form of capitalism needs to be changed, with more redistribution DanTex Apr 2016 #61

It's also why we DON'T have roads and homes and food TiberiusB Apr 2016 #112

bernie only added "Democratic" to Socialist when he was thinking about running for POTUS redstateblues Apr 2016 #78

Providing a definition does not equal a "call for." Scuba Apr 2016 #26

The quote is taken out of context. He was speaking of democracy in the workplace. Cowpunk Apr 2016 #51

LOL. "Public ownership of the major means of production." DanTex Apr 2016 #57

We don't have to surmise what he meant. Cowpunk Apr 2016 #66

No, because everyone knows what "public ownership of the major means of production" is. DanTex Apr 2016 #70

Did you read the Gadfy interview in question? Cowpunk Apr 2016 #99

Well we already have a government planned economy Kalidurga Apr 2016 #205

He didn't. It's just ... Scuba Apr 2016 #15

Oooops, special graphics aside, you were proven wrong just one minute earlier Sheepshank Apr 2016 #21

Providing a definition does not equal a "call for." Scuba Apr 2016 #29

Exactly. Nt. seabeyond Apr 2016 #8

You guys have thrown the kitchen sink at him AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #9

Internet chatter is different from actual ads. Wait till that stuff is on TV. DanTex Apr 2016 #14

She continually hemorrhages support AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #81

Hmm...interesting that she's winning by so many delegates and is leading the polls. DanTex Apr 2016 #85

Wait til they run the video of Bernie promising to raise taxes redstateblues Apr 2016 #80

A big loser with Republicans AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #83

I am more concerned about a conversation, that an educated, privileged white man did not work seabeyond Apr 2016 #16

That's a good point. He basically bummed around Vermont for 20 years, doing nothing. DanTex Apr 2016 #20

I mean... lmao. We have not even had this conversation, but the contradictions.... seabeyond Apr 2016 #22

and ........... another lie. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #95

You do seem to have the privilege of runing around calling people liars. Or, we do not care that seabeyond Apr 2016 #98

I call a lie a lie. polly7 Apr 2016 #100

Actually calling people liars generally warrant a hide, it is merely an opinion for you, not fact. seabeyond Apr 2016 #105

Actually ........... calling out lies isn't something I mind getting hidden over at all. polly7 Apr 2016 #106

Ha, at least we can dispense with your notion of issues actually R B Garr Apr 2016 #114

Ha! When getting 'scolded' over pointing out a lie by someone who did the most cruel, polly7 Apr 2016 #120

You bring it up constantly. It's very obvious. For years now. R B Garr Apr 2016 #122

Never. polly7 Apr 2016 #123

Always. Lots of misinterpretations, too. R B Garr Apr 2016 #124

Dead wrong, on both counts. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #125

Totally right. Looking at this thread brought it to mind. And there it was... again. R B Garr Apr 2016 #126

Link or slink. I'll totally wait. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #127

This thread. You're posting in it. No need to wait. R B Garr Apr 2016 #128

Still waiting ....................... nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #129

This thread. The first post I responded to. No need to wait. R B Garr Apr 2016 #130

No, no! .... you said I always bring it up, I explained that I don't ........... links. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #131

This thread. The first post I responded to. R B Garr Apr 2016 #132

Lots and Lots of misinterpretations. stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #159

Again ........ link or slink. I'll totally wait. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #165

try holding your breath and stomping your feet. stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #198

Why? nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #199

The biggest lie here is spreading the illusion that Bernie was a productive Sheepshank Apr 2016 #133

While plugged into his landlords utilities, stealing usage. I mean... It is what it is. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #134

Early Life and Education polly7 Apr 2016 #135

Every single pro Bernie resume is very careful to avoid timelines Sheepshank Apr 2016 #137

What?? polly7 Apr 2016 #138

Shocking, isn't it? The info has been posted here repeatedly. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #204

Smdh at seeing all of this against a good man who's done nothing to polly7 Apr 2016 #208

The pearl clutching over the essay is a nice touch. Reminds me of Dana Carvey's character: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #210

Perfect! polly7 Apr 2016 #213

And all of the people who were POUTRAGED over it 6 months ago are suddenly JUST now reading it. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #215

Oh, goodness! polly7 Apr 2016 #220

Even better are the ones still hyperventilating over orgasms. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #223

Yeesh ...... I saw that. I didn't know whether to laugh or feel bad for them. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #225

I feel sorry for their wives and girlfriends. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #226

This fake, orchestrated convo is better served to those buying the clap trap you're selling Sheepshank Apr 2016 #239

LOL! More projection. People STILL aren't clutching their pearls over this, better luck next time. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #240

Seems pretty self-evident what the talking point of the day was deemed over at the cave. opiate69 Apr 2016 #216

Yes ....... can you imagine how that goes? polly7 Apr 2016 #230

Oh, I can imagine lmao opiate69 Apr 2016 #232

ROFLMAO!! I've never seen that lol, thanks! nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #234

I have a huge problem with this aspect of his lack of motivation& ambition. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #38

I bet you could play with that! polly7 Apr 2016 #94

University of Chicago is one of the best universities in the country... woolldog Apr 2016 #184

Who the fuck knows? polly7 Apr 2016 #193

Um he wasn't "privileged" Armstead Apr 2016 #110

he was able to buy property without having a FT job- that is the definition of priviledge. bettyellen May 2016 #250

Excellent point, seabeyond. woolldog Apr 2016 #153

Have you read the entire essay? I recently did. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #68

Sorry, that boogie man commie fear mongering attacks do not resonate anymore. No one cares. dinkytron Apr 2016 #190

You're kidding right? He's been handled with kid gloves redstateblues Apr 2016 #79

Did Sanders write the essay? George II Apr 2016 #116

Please tell me this is a joke? toshiba783 Apr 2016 #246

why isn't hillary doing it then? timmymoff Apr 2016 #37

She's running a positive issue-oriented campaign, and winning by huge numbers of delegates. DanTex Apr 2016 #40

Which is the point. The Republicans will absolutely go there. They lack that integrity. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #41

Honest in her calls of sexism? timmymoff Apr 2016 #50

Se also knows it will be important to have Bernie's support in the GE. Very smart redstateblues Apr 2016 #82

It would be brutal ... and fatal to his candidacy. NurseJackie Apr 2016 #121

What a stupid post. Ron Green Apr 2016 #2

So you think the Republicans will give Bernie a "pass" Sheepshank Apr 2016 #13

No, I think Republicans might be into that kind of literature. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #93

Yep, will work just as well for the repugs as it did for Fortress Hillary. Kip Humphrey Apr 2016 #3

Secretary Clinton doesn't have a right wingnut echo chamber to play this up 24/7 SFnomad Apr 2016 #53

Do you really think any of the people who listen/watch those programs will vote for Clinton? (nt) jeff47 Apr 2016 #69

Where did I say something that foolish? SFnomad Apr 2016 #119

Because if the listeners/viewers will not vote for Sanders nor Clinton, it jeff47 Apr 2016 #244

You left out David Brock AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #117

I just hope NO ONE goes there. Democrats Ascendant Apr 2016 #7

It was something I did not need to know a 72 yr old man fantasized about. For sure. seabeyond Apr 2016 #11

To be fair, I guess, he was in his 30s. But still. Ugh! Democrats Ascendant Apr 2016 #28

30's is an adult. Kinda like Bush had his youthful missteps in his forties. seabeyond Apr 2016 #30

What exactly did he fantasize about at 72? nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #97

Since he never changes or evolves, I'd say he fantasizes about his essay. Nt Sheepshank Apr 2016 #139

I'd say you're desperate. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #140

Just using your own team's words is now desperate? Sheepshank Apr 2016 #141

It was implied that a 72 y/o Bernie Sanders was some sort of pervert fantasizing about something polly7 Apr 2016 #142

Honestly I think a lot of it is projection, who thinks that way? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #217

Did you read the essay? It's an exploration of gender roles in a changing world. pat_k Apr 2016 #155

The Republicans will go there and repeatedly do so. Yavin4 Apr 2016 #24

Yup, unfortunately, we'll have to keep hearing about it. Democrats Ascendant Apr 2016 #31

Honestly, It's pretty disgusting redstateblues Apr 2016 #86

It is revolting Haveadream Apr 2016 #118

Did you actually read it? pat_k Apr 2016 #185

Did you actually read the essay? pat_k Apr 2016 #157

These OPs of the Hillary folk the last few days have been so enjoyable. Autumn Apr 2016 #12

substance and countering the actual subject at hand....not. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #17

I am glad you are delighted and happily walking life. Good for you. !!! seabeyond Apr 2016 #18

fantasy. let them bring it. next. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #23

It's called a rape fantasy essay not for the reason you imply. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #32

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Let's not forget him telling mothers to encourage their young teen daughters to have sex with lunamagica Apr 2016 #84

Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #96

Link or admit that's a lie. Thanks in advance, I'll wait. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #196

Looks like she won't be replying in this thread again... opiate69 Apr 2016 #203

Oh certainly, I mean she ALWAYS backs up her claims with facts and links beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #206

ALWAYS!!!! opiate69 Apr 2016 #212

... beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #214

It's like these BSers just lack the capacity to do any research at all synergie Apr 2016 #247

Or they find a link that suits THEIR purposes, regardless of the number of credible sources. George II Apr 2016 #249

you waste my time. welcome to ignore. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #46

no good answers for that disgusting crap is there? redstateblues Apr 2016 #89

that something so simple is beyond their comprehension. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #107

Saying that he imagines this does not help! Democrats Ascendant Apr 2016 #33

you also waste my time. welcome to ignore. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #48

Stick your head in the sand if you must. Democrats Ascendant Apr 2016 #60

Please include a side order of fries with that plate of nonsense yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #35

Please clarify what portion of the op is nonsense Sheepshank Apr 2016 #42

let us get back to the discussion of emails and indictments yourpaljoey Apr 2016 #64

he must have read My Secret Garden, because several women describe such fantasies Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #39

A woman does not fantasize about being raped, as she has total control seabeyond Apr 2016 #45

so all these women what they said in this book and the sequel are lying? Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #62

A woman cannot fantasize about rape. She has all the controls of what is happening. seabeyond Apr 2016 #67

duh! which is why your comment is bunk Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #71

"Some women fantasize about NOT being in control." As they control every aspect of that seabeyond Apr 2016 #73

I'm a rape survivor. do not presume to tell me I don't understand! Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #75

Then you know the difference between being raped and pretending one is raped? control/NO control seabeyond Apr 2016 #101

You're so right, if there's one overriding danger in making Bernie the nominee, this is it. whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #43

Whatever, why don't you guys grow up Politicalboi Apr 2016 #44

May I remind you, thet Bill is not running? As you can see, Hillary has treated lunamagica Apr 2016 #108

Found another one for the dust bin! Bye bye. thereismore Apr 2016 #52

Sanders has not been vetted at all yet Gothmog Apr 2016 #54

+1. Nt seabeyond Apr 2016 #56

+1 DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #77

There is no talking point that makes that less disgusting redstateblues Apr 2016 #92

+1000. This is the crux of the matter, and Clinton has had to treat him R B Garr Apr 2016 #144

The Democrat's "War on Women" will be how the right wingnut echo chamber will describe this. n/t SFnomad Apr 2016 #55

The major attack against Bernie from the Right will be on taxes and distrust of government andym Apr 2016 #59

Yes, but the right also like the "entertainment" factor for the base. And what better than talking seabeyond Apr 2016 #65

Just remember , there will be attacks on as many fronts as they can piece together. Sheepshank Apr 2016 #136

It will potentially the most effective, since many voters care about their pocketbook andym Apr 2016 #243

I recently read the whole thing. I'd strongly suggest everyone do so. SusanCalvin Apr 2016 #63

God forbid!!!!!! Avalux Apr 2016 #72

He was in his thirties. I didn't buy the Bush's unspent youth... in the 40's either. seabeyond Apr 2016 #74

Ick! I can't believe he wrote that garbage! hrmjustin Apr 2016 #76

Clinton on defending the rapist of a 12-year old. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #104

POUTRAGE!!! DANGER! GENDER STEREOTYPE WITH ADULT THEMES! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #147

This post must be direct from Bill Clinton and it is pretty F&*king Stupid INdemo Apr 2016 #87

Funny how not even BSS on DU can defend Bernie's rape fantasy essay. redstateblues Apr 2016 #91

The Clinton camp has a bit of glass house in this area. CentralMass Apr 2016 #88

An both sides of their house have windows to break. unapatriciated Apr 2016 #186

They'll bring this up but they won't bring up Bill's sex scandals? Time to wake up! jillan Apr 2016 #90

So let's say it's Trump and Bernie and this essay comes up. Vinca Apr 2016 #102

we can always hope the phone numbers really belong to hillary Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #109

this is kind of scary runaway hero Apr 2016 #103

If this will be directed at 'women for Bernie' in the hopes of scaring them off Lodestar Apr 2016 #111

Bring it on. TM99 Apr 2016 #113

It was written more recently than the time that Hillary Clinton was a "Goldwater Girl". George II Apr 2016 #115

and Clinton was 27 unapatriciated Apr 2016 #201

Were you responding to me? I was talking about the crap thrown around about her..... George II Apr 2016 #209

Yes, I was unapatriciated Apr 2016 #222

Once again, apparently you don't understand the responsibilities of an attorney. Whether.... George II Apr 2016 #224

I'm not upset that she defended her client. unapatriciated Apr 2016 #237

Sanders wasn't in college in 1972, he was 31 years old. He had already moved to VT 4 years earlier. George II Apr 2016 #238

My point is that interview. unapatriciated Apr 2016 #241

I just read your link. smiley Apr 2016 #143

The questions explored may have been... pat_k Apr 2016 #152

Gloria Steinem and Katha Pollitt exploring the topic pat_k Apr 2016 #145

Exactly, but this isn't about facts or the truth. It's the kitchen sink. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #164

Thanks for the advice. Yep, it's a DNFTEC. pat_k Apr 2016 #172

Interesting though how Camp Weathervane is getting so hot and bothered. snagglepuss Apr 2016 #195

Right? They remind me of those horrified church ladies, clucking over 50 Shades. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #197

If this was an issue he would've never won an election timmymoff Apr 2016 #146

That is hideous! DesertRat Apr 2016 #148

Did you actually read it... pat_k Apr 2016 #149

I had no desire to read it all. nt DesertRat Apr 2016 #150

Then how can you possibly comment? pat_k Apr 2016 #158

I didn't have to read the whole thing to be disgusted by it. nt DesertRat Apr 2016 #161

Food for thought pat_k Apr 2016 #174

Oh spare me. It's an essay on gender stereotypes. Women have rape fantasies, adults don't care. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #151

"Women have rape fantasies" DesertRat Apr 2016 #156

Speak for yourself and stop trying to shame women who have fantasies. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #160

I don't think that the average American woman DesertRat Apr 2016 #167

Hopefully the average American woman knows how to read for comprehension. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #170

But you do think SwampG8r Apr 2016 #218

Pssst 38% doesn't mean most...in fact it means you are in the minority LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #169

Having them vs. wanting a male president who writes about women's rape fantasy DesertRat Apr 2016 #175

I guess we will have to let the voters decide that LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #187

It's raises questions that have long been subject of discussion pat_k Apr 2016 #176

Discussion by Men running for POTUS? nt DesertRat Apr 2016 #179

Why not? Women's studies classes are off limits for men running for POTUS? pat_k Apr 2016 #191

Yeah you're right. The Republicans would never use something so creepy redstateblues Apr 2016 #162

Who cares what a bunch of sexually repressed troglodytes think? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #166

Church ladies vote in droves DesertRat Apr 2016 #177

And they vote for Republicans. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #178

Not the ones in my church DesertRat Apr 2016 #181

.. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #183

It's not a smear. He actually wrote it as an adult. redstateblues Apr 2016 #188

It's an essay on gender stereotypes, why would I need to defend something women have written about? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #194

Keep spinning. This would not be a big plus in the general election redstateblues Apr 2016 #231

You're the one spinning. Make up your mind, who's scandalized by this - you or the Republicans? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #233

FFS, when does the stoning of Margaret Atwood begin? demmiblue Apr 2016 #154

Right? Remember the poutrage over 50 Shades of Gray? SCANDALOUS!!! beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #168

I can't believe I'm just hearing about this. ohheckyeah Apr 2016 #163

It's highly embarrassing, but I think it actually will help Bernie when he apologizes for it. reformist2 Apr 2016 #171

Should feminists who explore he topic apologize too? pat_k Apr 2016 #180

Of course they should, it's perverted according to some. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #182

Yes, of course. Dr. Strange Apr 2016 #173

GOP Fodder: Clinton on defending the rapist of a 12-year old. polly7 Apr 2016 #189

I'd put Sanders works of fiction up against notadmblnd Apr 2016 #192

Only complete morons confuse the objective of that essay, which mainly are GOP supporters anyway! TheBlackAdder Apr 2016 #200

^^^THAT RIGHT THERE^^^ beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #202

Quit telling the truth! Your ruining an already poor smear! (nt) LostOne4Ever Apr 2016 #207

This is why it will end up helping Bernie. Because even though it was awful, he was trying to help. reformist2 Apr 2016 #211

exactly. dana_b Apr 2016 #221

Wow. I remember some of those. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #229

ew dana_b Apr 2016 #242

You mean it's sheepshank fodder passiveporcupine Apr 2016 #219

Women having fantasies and orgasms? Oh my!!! What's next, a movie about it? beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #227

There are angles the Republicans would use to attack Sanders if he becomes the nominee mythology Apr 2016 #228

no, your bs is the only fantasy here stupidicus Apr 2016 #235

LMAO shawn703 Apr 2016 #236

This has been picked over for God knows how long - old news Rosa Luxemburg Apr 2016 #245

You mean like the email crappola and the rest of Bernie's lies? Nt Sheepshank Apr 2016 #248

Well now, since he would then be the Democratic nominee, and since Hillary has "all the women", and highprincipleswork May 2016 #251

good luck with all of that fantasy. Sheepshank May 2016 #253

Jimmy Carter was racked over the coals for lusting in his heart WhiteTara May 2016 #252